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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It wouldn't for the simple reason that the death penalty takes decades, at the very least, to carry out. If it happened the next day, yes, as it stands now, no. Besides, it's really pointless, just levy a $10,000 fine for every single infraction, going up to the revocation of the business license on the third offense. You won't see anyone hiring illegals.
    I think because it takes time to find out who is and isn't hiring illegals a 10,000 dollar fine won't do squat.If an employer has being employing illegals for at least a year or two then that employer has already made back that $10,000 fine for each illegal employed.So a $10,000 dollar fine for each illegal hired is not a deterrent. Throw them in prison,make them subject to severe fines and asset seizure and forfeiture like other criminals who profit from illegal activities. Make it hurt the first time and make public examples of them when caught and employers will use e-verify and do everything they can to make sure they are not hiring illegals.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
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    Both are tragic.....

    But ones carries a significance over the other.....

    As it should be
    Why? I'd like to know why you think that cops should be held above others.

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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    yes, no, maybe


    Make it a capital crime to employ undocumented workers/ immigrants.

    Well, that is the dumbest idea I have seen so far today.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    *facepalm*

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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Answer the question. Did you or did you not say what I quoted? Because I quoted it directly from you.
    Yes I did, but as always, you took it completely out of context. That's why you got the facepalm. But I know, honesty is just too much to ask from you.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think because it takes time to find out who is and isn't hiring illegals a 10,000 dollar fine won't do squat.If an employer has being employing illegals for at least a year or two then that employer has already made back that $10,000 fine for each illegal employed.So a $10,000 dollar fine for each illegal hired is not a deterrent. Throw them in prison,make them subject to severe fines and asset seizure and forfeiture like other criminals who profit from illegal activities. Make it hurt the first time and make public examples of them when caught and employers will use e-verify and do everything they can to make sure they are not hiring illegals.
    That's why, after they've been caught three times, they just go out of business regardless and no longer make any money at all. Maybe the second time they're caught, it costs them $100,000 per offense. It might make them think twice.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    *facepalm*

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    I didn't make it, I just posted it. Try again.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yes I did, but as always, you took it completely out of context. That's why you got the facepalm. But I know, honesty is just too much to ask from you.
    No I did not take it out of context.

    This is your entire post (#14, early in the thread)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It wouldn't for the simple reason that the death penalty takes decades, at the very least, to carry out. If it happened the next day, yes, as it stands now, no. Besides, it's really pointless, just levy a $10,000 fine for every single infraction, going up to the revocation of the business license on the third offense. You won't see anyone hiring illegals.
    I don't know how to break this down any more for you than I already have.

    You said that the death penalty would not work because it would take decades to carry out. You then said "if it happened the next day, yes, as it stands now, no."

    Now - you are saying that you are only against death for those who hire illegals because it would take too long.

    Is that not what you said?

    And don't say I am taking it out of context, because the entire comment is listed above.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    No I did not take it out of context.
    Of course you did. I never suggested it, I never recommended it, I explained why it wouldn't work. But hey, I don't expect you to be honest about it.
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