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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

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    Says the one who started that way.
    Started what way? What are you talking about?
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Started what way? What are you talking about?
    You're the one that started out calling me heartless because of something YOU failed to understand, then you accuse me of calling names? Are you really that dense?
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Neither are you.
    I never claimed to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    The 1st amendment gives me the right to say whatever I want, whether you like what I say or not. Just like it gives you the right.
    The 1st Amendment doesn't apply to private forums like this one, which is how the admin gets away with censorship and punishing verious kinds of speech.

    You have no rights on this forum. Neither do I.

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    You, however, are callous and cold hearted. Those 18 people were innocent and would have been executed had "justice" been swift.
    Yes, they would have been, and likely many others over years. If we're going to have the death penalty at all then it should be swift. Otherwise just get rid of it.

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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You're the one that started out calling me heartless because of something YOU failed to understand, then you accuse me of calling names? Are you really that dense?
    There's a difference in calling someone heartless and calling someone dense.

    You know the difference. I have not insulted you.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    There's a difference in calling someone heartless and calling someone dense.

    You know the difference. I have not insulted you.
    You did insult him. Calling an individual callus or heartless is a violation of the rules you agreed to when you joined this forum. Please keep your word.

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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post

    The 1st Amendment doesn't apply to private forums like this one, which is how the admin gets away with censorship and punishing verious kinds of speech.

    You have no rights on this forum. Neither do I.
    I was not talking in terms of the forum. I was talking to you. You have no right to attempt to suppress what I say, any more than I have the right to attempt to suppress what you say. The forum has nothing to do with it. Now I said that 18 people would disagree with you that death should be swift. You said I was not there spokesperson, and to let them speak for themselves. What gives you the right to tell me that I am not their spokesperson? What gives me the right to be a spokesperson for them? The 1st Amendment, that's what, and that has nothing to do with this place. It does, however, give me and you the right to say what we want, when we want. If the forum owners don't like what we say, they can remove us, but I don't think that's going to happen in this instance.

    Yes, they would have been, and likely many others over years. If we're going to have the death penalty at all then it should be swift. Otherwise just get rid of it.
    Now that is an idea I can get behind.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    There's a difference in calling someone heartless and calling someone dense.

    You know the difference. I have not insulted you.
    Well, I guess that answered that question.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I was not talking in terms of the forum.
    This conversation is occuring on a forum, thus it regards this forum. The 1st amendment has no authority here.

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    You have no right to attempt to suppress what I say, any more than I have the right to attempt to suppress what you say.
    Neither of us have any rights at all. This is a private forum, the only person with rights is the owner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Now I said that 18 people would disagree with you that death should be swift.
    You don't know that to be true so let them come here and speek for themselves.

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    What gives you the right to tell me that I am not their spokesperson?
    I have no rights. Neither do you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    What gives me the right to be a spokesperson for them? The 1st Amendment, that's what, and that has nothing to do with this place.
    The 1st Amendment has no authority on this forum.

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    It does, however, give me and you the right to say what we want, when we want. If the forum owners don't like what we say, they can remove us, but I don't think that's going to happen in this instance.
    If the 1st Amendment had authority on this forum then no, we couldn't be removed just because the admin didn't like what we had to say.

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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Thanks for deflecting everything I said. I forgot - nobody wins a debate with you. They just give up and walk away, exasperated.

    Have a nice day.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Thanks for deflecting everything I said. I forgot - nobody wins a debate with you. They just give up and walk away, exasperated.

    Have a nice day.
    That, ofcourse, is my objective. Since you aren't interested in proving your claim in debate on what the opinions of those people are, you may as well leave.

    Have a good one

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