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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Wow. Ever the compassionate Conservative, ay?
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    yes, no, maybe

    Make it a capital crime to employ undocumented workers/ immigrants.

    The question is absurd, but what the hell...

    No, it would not. In your paradise-like example there would still be other incentives. "Anchor babies", education, etc. A crappy day in America would still be better than a crappy day in their home country, for many of them.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    The question is phrased rather poorly, because "is it a good idea?" is a whole lot different than "will it solve illegal immigration?"

    Businesses choosing to hire illegal labor, which they in turn exploit and pay lower wages than American workers, is obviously an unethical practice that should be prohibited, as long as businesses receive the punishment, not immigrants who are desperate for a paycheck.

    Will it solve the issue of illegal immigration? That depends on what "solving the issue" looks like. I don't think you can ever completely prevent illegal immigration, and any attempts to do so would result in racial profiling and would generally bring about more harm than good. Punishing the act of hiring illegal immigrants needs to be accompanied by a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, and this action by itself will only solve a part of the problem.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Nope.

    #1 that is excessive

    #2 the super cheap labor is real tempting, too tempting for many AS IT SHOULD BE

    #3 let capitalism do its thing. If these guys outsource Americans in certain low skilled work jobs then whatever we should hire their ****ing asses
    Capitalism does not effectively work in this scenerio. Everyone involved is not on an even playing field.

    A person paying taxes needs to earn around 35% more in terms of take home wages to be equal with someone not paying taxes.

    There is also the aspect of the strength of the dollar on a global scale. Many illegals come here and send their money home. They work here long until they have enough to return home and live very well off where as a us citizen does not have that advantage.

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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    old cases, new science

    and a few errors when you have a human factor is normal

    the system will NEVER be perfect.....

    it just has to be close enough
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    Do you have any moral objection to making it a person's job to kill people?

    no...

    as part of one's duty while in the military, it is known you may be required to go into combat

    part of the job

    now if you are asking would i FORCE someone to become an executioner.....no

    there are enough volunteers for the extra pay
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Was a tongue in cheek comment based on the fact the issue still hasn't been resolved politically in the USA.

    Ignore the constitutionality.
    No, I don't think I will.

    Imagine if that WERE the law.

    Would the problem disappear?
    Nope.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Punishing the act of hiring illegal immigrants needs to be accompanied by a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, and this action by itself will only solve a part of the problem.
    Not just no. Hell no!

    This is unacceptable on at least two fronts.

    1. It rewards criminals for being criminals.
    2. It unfairly penalizes those who go about seeking residency and citizenship through proper legal means.


    Only one who is unabashedly on the side of criminals and against that of honest people could support this.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Not just no. Hell no!

    This is unacceptable on at least two fronts.

    1. It rewards criminals for being criminals.
    1. Not all crimes are equal. Just because someone violated a law and came to the United States improperly doesn't mean that you can stand on a moral high ground and declare that we should not reward criminals when a clear and imminent problem exists.

    2. It unfairly penalizes those who go about seeking residency and citizenship through proper legal means.

Only one who is unabashedly on the side of criminals and against that of honest people could support this.
Legal immigration should be much easier in the first place. The issue of illegal immigrants needs to be addressed because millions of them already live in the country and sending them to the back of the line will only lengthen the problem.
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    Re: Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    no...

    as part of one's duty while in the military, it is known you may be required to go into combat

    part of the job

    now if you are asking would i FORCE someone to become an executioner.....no

    there are enough volunteers for the extra pay
    That's fair enough. I personally oppose the death penalty based on my own moral objection to killing someone but I respect where you are coming from. I don't think your position is unfair just be dam sure you are executing the right person if you feel that's what must be done.

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