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    Which Party values the middle class more?

    Personally I think neither care about the middle class.

    The Left needs the poor to remain poor, to retain their vote.

    The Right needs the rich to remain rich, to retain their vote.

    We keep voting for these politicians. We keep getting lied to. They keep breaking their promises. Our national debt is still rising. It wouldn't surprise me that Independants are increasing in number because they're disillusioned with both Wings. Oh, and the attack ads are still ridiculously disgusting, petty, and dishonest.

    Why should we settle for voting for the lesser of two evils? Don't we deserve better than that? So no, I'm not voting, because both candidates tow their party lines while smearing their opposing party and lying to the fools who routinely vote them into office.

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    Re: Which Party values the middle class more?

    Quote Originally Posted by tarheel View Post
    Personally I think neither care about the middle class.

    The Left needs the poor to remain poor, to retain their vote.

    The Right needs the rich to remain rich, to retain their vote.

    We keep voting for these politicians. We keep getting lied to. They keep breaking their promises. Our national debt is still rising. It wouldn't surprise me that Independants are increasing in number because they're disillusioned with both Wings. Oh, and the attack ads are still ridiculously disgusting, petty, and dishonest.

    Why should we settle for voting for the lesser of two evils? Don't we deserve better than that? So no, I'm not voting, because both candidates tow their party lines while smearing their opposing party and lying to the fools who routinely vote them into office.
    What do you mean with "middle class'? The people paying the taxes?

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    Re: Which Party values the middle class more?

    Quote Originally Posted by tarheel View Post
    Personally I think neither care about the middle class.

    The Left needs the poor to remain poor, to retain their vote.

    The Right needs the rich to remain rich, to retain their vote.

    We keep voting for these politicians. We keep getting lied to. They keep breaking their promises. Our national debt is still rising. It wouldn't surprise me that Independants are increasing in number because they're disillusioned with both Wings. Oh, and the attack ads are still ridiculously disgusting, petty, and dishonest.

    Why should we settle for voting for the lesser of two evils? Don't we deserve better than that? So no, I'm not voting, because both candidates tow their party lines while smearing their opposing party and lying to the fools who routinely vote them into office.
    I'm afraid you must first define the "Middle Class." The Middle class has been shrinking as incomes of the wealthy have been increasing. The lower end of the Middle Class is now in the poor class and the upper end of the Middle class is all that's left of the Middle Class. The numbers have shrunk. Define the numbers that we might use actual numerical data.

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    Re: Which Party values the middle class more?

    None, they need middle class votes in order to get elected, but both parties screw them over in the name of their special interests.
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    Re: Which Party values the middle class more?

    Quote Originally Posted by tarheel View Post
    Personally I think neither care about the middle class.

    The Left needs the poor to remain poor, to retain their vote.

    The Right needs the rich to remain rich, to retain their vote.

    We keep voting for these politicians. We keep getting lied to. They keep breaking their promises. Our national debt is still rising. It wouldn't surprise me that Independants are increasing in number because they're disillusioned with both Wings. Oh, and the attack ads are still ridiculously disgusting, petty, and dishonest.

    Why should we settle for voting for the lesser of two evils? Don't we deserve better than that? So no, I'm not voting, because both candidates tow their party lines while smearing their opposing party and lying to the fools who routinely vote them into office.
    Well you're partially correct, in the end neither care because politicians of any stripe need their rich donors. So Dems aren't trying to keep the poor poor as much as they're doing exactly the same as the Repubs, keeping the rich donating to their every whim.
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    Re: Which Party values the middle class more?

    Quote Originally Posted by tarheel View Post
    Personally I think neither care about the middle class.

    The Left needs the poor to remain poor, to retain their vote.

    The Right needs the rich to remain rich, to retain their vote.

    We keep voting for these politicians. We keep getting lied to. They keep breaking their promises. Our national debt is still rising. It wouldn't surprise me that Independants are increasing in number because they're disillusioned with both Wings. Oh, and the attack ads are still ridiculously disgusting, petty, and dishonest.

    Why should we settle for voting for the lesser of two evils? Don't we deserve better than that? So no, I'm not voting, because both candidates tow their party lines while smearing their opposing party and lying to the fools who routinely vote them into office.
    I don't think any of them care one way or the other. As long as most are too lacking in critical thinking to substantively evaluate their claims (and many people are, even the wealthy), it's all gravy to them.

    The majority of people in the majority of socioeconomic classes are well-groomed to accept the premise of either party's claims, in the sense that they accept the implied limitations of advancement true of both of their worldviews, and they accept that hating each other means they have some kind of democratic freedom. As long as that remains true, either party is perfectly content, because the people remain distracted from calling out the self-interested nature of pretty much all mainstream politicians, and willing to vote against their own self-interests and community interests.

    I imagine what drives libertarian and communist politicians will be different, since neither have a major stake in the American political pie. But I find both to be divorced from reality, at least in the way they're conceived. Libertarianism seems to be kind of self-interested and loathing of others, to the point of treating one's neighbors as the enemy. Communism, in this day and age, is just as divorced from reality as believing in unicorns.

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    Re: Which Party values the middle class more?

    I voted "other" simply because neither one of them "care" about any class. They care about themselves, and getting votes, and gaining and keeping power.
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    Re: Which Party values the middle class more?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I'm afraid you must first define the "Middle Class." The Middle class has been shrinking as incomes of the wealthy have been increasing. The lower end of the Middle Class is now in the poor class and the upper end of the Middle class is all that's left of the Middle Class. The numbers have shrunk. Define the numbers that we might use actual numerical data.
    The middle class encompasses a group of workers whose income surrounds the median income. It never shrinks. It just rises and falls as median income rises and falls. Median income has decreased in the last few years so middle class income has decreased but it hasn't gotten smaller.
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    Re: Which Party values the middle class more?

    I think there's probably less need for a middle class with so many social programs and tax credits for those with families who otherwise would've had to earn all of that money.

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