View Poll Results: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

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  • If it's cheaper to the taxpayer, I would support providing apartments for the homeless.

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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    In taxes? Pay the minimum necessary for the stick, and nothing at all in carrots.

    The stick is public.

    Carrots should only be coming from voluntary and private sources.


    There should be no "public housing."
    In other words, you are willing to pay a higher amount in taxes since it has been shown in real-world practice that it's cheaper in taxpayer dollars to provide the apartments! You're willing to pay more in taxes just because the idea of providing apartments to the homeless is offensive to you.

    I think this serves as proof positive that many who believe in "fiscal conservatism" really don't care about the "fiscal" part.
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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    No, actually, liberals lie all the time. Honesty is not a virtue to liberals, power and control are. To liberals, the ends justify the means. So lying is just a means to achieve what they see as greater ends.
    Ever hear of "projection"?
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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    actually this would be nothing but a departure deeper into socialism.

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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    As we can plainly see, a sadistic desire to punish people for the crime of being poor is quite prevalent in the American right wing.
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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    as stated this is nothing but an another attempt to take america deeper into socialism, by the socialist of america who believe everyone is victim and cannot make it without government, unless we have the redistribution of wealth and forced taxation.
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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    As we can plainly see, a sadistic desire to punish people for the crime of being poor is quite prevalent in the American right wing.
    Nothing to do with "punishment" at all...rather tough love encouragement to take personal responsibility or accept and deal with the consequences of your choices. You know...life.
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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Ever hear of "projection"?
    Of course. But the idea that liberals deny that, for them, with regards to their political aims, the ends justify the means is either done out of ignorance or dishonesty. As for me projecting, that's reflects even greater ignorance. After all, if you pay any attention at all to my posts, it is the means that I oppose almost exclusively.

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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    As we can plainly see, a sadistic desire to punish people for the crime of being poor is quite prevalent in the American right wing.
    Plainly see??? Where is this evidence 'plain' to you? No one on the right seeks to punish the poor at all. What is most often being opposed is the leftist desire for the state to address poverty through theft of the property of others. I get that theft is all you socialists think about, but it is another example of how your supposedly good ends are justified by any means. Theft is the main one, and lying (as you did in the post I am quoting) is another.

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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Plainly see??? Where is this evidence 'plain' to you? No one on the right seeks to punish the poor at all. What is most often being opposed is the leftist desire for the state to address poverty through theft of the property of others. I get that theft is all you socialists think about, but it is another example of how your supposedly good ends are justified by any means. Theft is the main one, and lying (as you did in the post I am quoting) is another.
    Besides the "theft" nonsense, how would you address the poor?
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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    In other words, you are willing to pay a higher amount in taxes since it has been shown in real-world practice that it's cheaper in taxpayer dollars to provide the apartments! You're willing to pay more in taxes just because the idea of providing apartments to the homeless is offensive to you.

    I think this serves as proof positive that many who believe in "fiscal conservatism" really don't care about the "fiscal" part.
    "Millions for defense, not one penny for tribute."

    It works pretty well as a maxim in dealing with socialists who advocate bribing the poor into good behavior.

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