View Poll Results: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

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  • If it's cheaper to the taxpayer, I would support providing apartments for the homeless.

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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Uh huh.

    I love it when some conservative vomits up "THIS IS HOW LIBERALS REALLY ARE" on the forum. It's always good for a couple of chuckles when they work themselves up into a lather about how liberals are all just evil liars. Utterly laughable garbage.
    Truth hurts doesn't it.

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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Can anyone remember the study in some other country where they compared people in poverty who were given assistance for a year versus people in poverty who weren't?
    The point being that the increase in stability and income for those who were assisted continued even after the duration of the experiment where funds were given ended.
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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Truth hurts doesn't it.
    Try telling it sometime.
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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The only thing the local governments would be involved in is directing people in need to the charities that could help them. In my community most of the churches pull together and give a percentage of their tithes and offerings to help those in need in the area. For example the Lutheran church operates the food pantry out of their church where one can go three times a week for goods. The food is stocked with money from all the churches. Several churches own homes that were willed to them that they use to house those who are temporarily without shelter. They are also used to house missionaries upon return from their missions until they can settle in their own places. Business men/women who are members of these churches are involved in helping those who are out of work find a job. There are doctors, dentists, nurses in these congregations that dedicate time to free clinics for those who have no way to pay or will see someone in need in their private practice. The churches with their pulled funds will help the one who can't pay the electric bill or their house payment due to a crisis. Or if a person has no way to get to work because of a broken down car they help with the repairs. There are those who minister to drug addicts others to battered women etc. There are drives for clothing and household goods. But there is a significant number of homeless who choose to be homeless. They want to live under bridges, beg for money, and pick through trash. There's little you can do for them other than drop off blankets, coats, food etc. where they will find them.
    So, you want someone else to make this not your problem; to make it go away quietly without muddying your hands. I think its rather polyana-ish of you, but thanks for clarifying.

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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Some people cannot be reasoned with, Glen. There is a large segment of conservative America that has been taught -- indoctrinated, even -- for years that every single thing liberals say is a lie.
    I was one of them, once. Because I am not one now means that there's hope for anyone. Then again, as far as I can tell, the change didn't come from what anyone told me, but from what I saw myself. I guess you've got a point.
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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    So, you want someone else to make this not your problem; to make it go away quietly without muddying your hands. I think its rather polyana-ish of you, but thanks for clarifying.
    How am I making it someone else's problem when I am personally active in providing for others in need through donations and volunteering? There are a lot of us. I counted 13 shelters in the Columbus vicinity where the majority are run on donations and volunteers.

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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    If it is shown that it costs less in taxpayer dollars to provide apartments for the homeless than it would be to just let them remain homeless in the streets, would you support using taxpayer dollars to pay for apartments for the homeless?

    Why or why not?
    We should. And sometimes, we should do it against their will.
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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    So, you want someone else to make this not your problem; to make it go away quietly without muddying your hands. I think its rather polyana-ish of you, but thanks for clarifying.
    Quit being so immature, she is talking about taking care of it herself, with the help of her friends at her church. You're proposing forcing other people to pay through taxes, aren't you?

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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That's not what's been done in the places that have implemented this type of system -- see Salt Lake City, for example. A case worker is also provided.
    And in North Carolina they had a team of social workers, nurses, psychiatric specialists, etc. addressing the whole gamut of issues these folks faced. According to the study, the team discussed each resident, each day, to see what was going well, poorly, next steps, etc.

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    Re: Is is cheaper for the taxpayer to provide apartments for the homeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Some people cannot be reasoned with, Glen. There is a large segment of conservative America that has been taught -- indoctrinated, even -- for years that every single thing liberals say is a lie.
    Actually, many have come to that conclusion through observation. Perhaps not every single thing, but, a large percentage.

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