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Thread: THe European Union

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    THe European Union

    Just wondering what you guys think of the EU. Personally I'm not a fan as I view the leaders of the EU wanting to form a European super state and take away the nation states of Europe anatomy.

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    Re: THe European Union

    For as interconnected that Europe is right now, and how that will only ever increase, it doesn't make sense to continue to subdivide Europe into their own nation states.
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    Re: THe European Union

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Just wondering what you guys think of the EU. Personally I'm not a fan as I view the leaders of the EU wanting to form a European super state and take away the nation states of Europe anatomy.
    As far as I know, the European Union has been kind enough to leave Europeans' anatomy intact, unless they are amputees. Or eunuchs.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: THe European Union

    Considering that Europe used to be an utter hell of war after war after war after war after war after war after war...

    Yeah. I'll take the imperfect EU any day of the week as a protector of the highest standards of living on the planet.
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    Re: THe European Union

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    As far as I know, the European Union has been kind enough to leave Europeans' anatomy intact, unless they are amputees. Or eunuchs.
    Expect the whole unlimited immigration under the EU.

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    Re: THe European Union

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Just wondering what you guys think of the EU. Personally I'm not a fan as I view the leaders of the EU wanting to form a European super state and take away the nation states of Europe anatomy.
    I wonder if the states which made up the original USA thought similar things.

    I personally don't know if its' good or bad.
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    Re: THe European Union

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Expect the whole unlimited immigration under the EU.
    The EU doesn't allow unlimited immigration.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Bad idea, economically. Multiple WILDLY different cultures, forced to use the SAME currency, but WITHOUT central control over monetary policy.















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    Re: THe European Union

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The EU doesn't allow unlimited immigration.
    EU parliament's president says Britain must allow unrestricted movement for migrants | Daily Mail Online

    Within Europe it does.

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    Re: THe European Union

    judging by this, Europe might be better off with some kind of union instead of fighting over borders.


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