View Poll Results: If Watergate had never happened would Nixon be remembered as a good President?

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    Re: If Watergate had never happened...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Not all who fear their political rivals, commit crimes to further their political aspirations ...
    crimes were committed against nixon in 1960 so he did the same in 72
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    Re: If Watergate had never happened...

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    crimes were committed against nixon in 1960 so he did the same in 72
    That's not really a defense.
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    Re: If Watergate had never happened...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    And how is it a simple question? In Never Neverland?

    How on earth is anybody going to predict how Nixon would have been remembered if there had not been a Watergate.

    1. there was a Watergate

    2. He did not complete his presidency

    3. people cannot predict how a president would have been viewed without him having finished his presidency. Maybe he would have solved world hunger, maybe he would have started world war three.

    Grade for your poll: F (two can play that game)
    Well, it seems you are beyond intellectual discussions...

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    Re: If Watergate had never happened...

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Well, it seems you are beyond intellectual discussions...
    You are free to think that, I know better.

    I gave a very clear answer to this poll (hence my voting for "other"). This was a rebuttal, not an attempt at a discussion.
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    Re: If Watergate had never happened...

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    crimes were committed against nixon in 1960 so he did the same in 72
    Sorry TurtleDude, I'm not fully sold yet on Mr. Nixon being a victim of 'crime' (if you're referring to the election & Chicago's input) - but that pales in comparison to disagreeing with your proposition that those in office can be justified in committing crime.

    I can't think of any reason why we would allow a sworn elected official (a sitting President no-less!) to commit crimes to further his political career.

    America is country different than others: we are not a 'people', we are not a 'culture', we are not a 'former monarchy', we are not a 'geographical area', we are not a 'theocracy' - we are an idea! And that idea was laid forth in the Constitution. Without law, we are nothing, and I have little respect for those that break it (particular our civil servants and elected officials).
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    Re: If Watergate had never happened...

    I said yes, absolutely. He was an exceedingly good President and I believe would have been remembered and considered as such.
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    Re: If Watergate had never happened...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If Watergate had never happened...

    ...would Richard Nixon be remembered as a good President?

    Legacy-wise, 20+ years after he would have left office at the end of his term.
    Probably but everything that came after would have changed. Carter would have never been elected. Ted Kennedy may have taken that slot which makes it unlikely Reagan would have been elected which then takes out the Bush pair in his wake. Watergate really set off some electoral dominoes.

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    Re: If Watergate had never happened...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If Watergate had never happened...

    ...would Richard Nixon be remembered as a good President?

    Legacy-wise, 20+ years after he would have left office at the end of his term.
    Hell, by today's standards, the man was a saint.

    He was actually a great President overall, I think it speaks to how far we, as the Public, have fallen when we outed Nixon for Watergate, but now don't seem to give a fudge about any misdeed of our politicians. But if you look at a lot of what Nixon did, there were lots of positives. Remember the old Vulcan proverb, "Only Nixon could go to China".
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    Re: If Watergate had never happened...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If Watergate had never happened...

    ...would Richard Nixon be remembered as a good President?

    Legacy-wise, 20+ years after he would have left office at the end of his term.
    He did create the Chinese problem.
    Of course, they say that prepared the way for the fall of the Evil Empire.
    Come to think about it, that has made Russia more dangerous.
    Hmmmm?..?

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    Re: If Watergate had never happened...

    NO!!! He took us off the gold standard (this is worse than Watergate). Gave us OSHA which probably was good in the beginning but has become waaaaay too powerful. Created the EPA which is KILLING us now. He opened up relations with China and now you can hardly buy anything that was not made in China and you can't get a job because everything is being manufactured in China. No, Nixon was not a good president and Watergate was not the worst thing he did.
    Last edited by maquignon; 07-04-15 at 12:57 AM.

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