View Poll Results: Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

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  • It wasn't just us, we had help.

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    Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?[W:51***]

    Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

    I think we have, and for decades to come. For good or for bad, and as imperfect as it was, it was somewhat stable. Now, it's chaos.

    Discuss.
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    Re: Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

    I think we have, and for decades to come. For good or for bad, and as imperfect as it was, it was somewhat stable. Now, it's chaos.

    Discuss.
    The US, via NATO, screwed up Libya. We are funding, arming and training Islamic "moderate" fundamentalists. That started with OBL, and continues in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Chechnya, and who knows where else. USA money and arms and training keeps the Syrian debacle afire, keeps the Iraq debacle afire, created the Libya fire and our arms support the Yemen fire. Good money in war, don't ya' know?

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    Re: Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

    Radicalism and fundamentalism screwed the Middle East.
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    Re: Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

    Yeah, things were much better with state genocide and court sentences of gang rape.

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    Re: Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

    Mistake number one. Bush should not have invaded Iraq.

    Mistake number two. Everything Obama has done in Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Syria and Yemen.
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    Re: Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yeah, things were much better with state genocide and court sentences of gang rape.
    I'm glad to see evidence that our presence caused those things to come to an end. Let me know when you find some.

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    Re: Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    I'm glad to see evidence that our presence caused those things to come to an end. Let me know when you find some.
    The government of Iraq no longer commits genocide nor sentences gang rape.

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    Re: Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

    I think we have, and for decades to come. For good or for bad, and as imperfect as it was, it was somewhat stable. Now, it's chaos.

    Discuss.
    No, without the United States the Middle East would be far more war-torn, chaotic, and poor.

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    Re: Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    No, without the United States the Middle East would be far more war-torn, chaotic, and poor.
    Following your logic then our constant screwing with the people and the governments of that region: determining their borders, assassinating or arranging for the assassination of their heads of state and their leaders; picking their new heads of state; backing their enemies in armed conflict; back them later against their enemies (our former "friends") in armed conflict; sending our corporations over to "help" them with their national resources; sending our missionaries to help with their national religions; occupying their sovereign nations; killing hundreds of thousands of their children, their women and their civilian; destroying their cities and their infrastructures; making hundreds of thousands homeless; destroying their livelihoods; bombing them and droning them; giving billions to their corrupt leaders that we choose, billions their people will never see has been good for them?

    How has it been good for America?










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    Re: Have we (the US) screwed up the Middle East?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    occupying their sovereign nations
    Sovereignty belongs to the people and not a tyrant. Where tyrants rule, the people are not sovereign. Protecting the sovereignty of a tyrant that has taken sovereignty from the people is intellectually pathetic garbage.

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