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  • Would we have invaded? Yes

    9 37.50%
  • Would we have invaded? No

    1 4.17%
  • Would we have invaded? Maybe

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  • Would we have invaded? Other

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  • SHOULD we have invaded? Yes

    4 16.67%
  • SHOULD we have invaded? No

    18 75.00%
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Do not know. Just know (opinion) the Chinese ain't to happy with him.
    I'm sure they're not.
    But, if they did decide to take him out, the chances are that someone equally bad would take over as absolute dictator of that unfortunate nation.

    Which brings us back to having taken out Saddam Hussain without considering just who or what would succeed him.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The invasion of Iraq was one of the worst blunders ever,
    nearly equal to having gotten bogged down in a ground war in SE Asia years ago. It has cost upwards of a trillion dollars and thousands of lives, and left the situation there worse than it was when Hussain was in power.

    How anyone with 20/20 hindsight can't see that for what it is is a mystery to me. I was against the invasion from the start, having lived through and with the results of that other blunder in Vietnam. Anyone who was for the war has to have their foresight and leadership questioned.


    I've been opposed to getting involved in Iraq since before Bush senior took us there in 1991.

    I served in Vietnam 50 years ago (RA all the way.) and I see that now for the unnecessary mess that it was.

    But 50 years ago I was glad to go there.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Would we have invaded? Yes

    Would we have invaded? No

    Would we have invaded? Maybe

    Would we have invaded? Other


    SHOULD we have invaded? Yes

    SHOULD we have invaded? No

    SHOULD we have invaded? Maybe

    SHOULD we have invaded? Other

    If we knew the actual nature of Islam I wonder if we woulda or shoulda invaded.

    One unknown aspect of the true nature of Islam is that Muslims are more Muslim than Americans are American, IMHO.

    Another is that Muslims are commanded to make every other religion and form of government ion Earth disappear.

    If we knew that we would not be overwhelmingly greeted as liberators would we have had that humanitarian motive to add to the reasons why we believed we SHOULD have invaded?
    Your so-called "truth" about Islam...or even Islam, itself...had nothing to do with why we invaded Iraq, so in my opinion, your poll is useless.

    But I voted yes for #'s 1 and 5, anyway.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm sure they're not.
    But, if they did decide to take him out, the chances are that someone equally bad would take over as absolute dictator of that unfortunate nation.

    Which brings us back to having taken out Saddam Hussain without considering just who or what would succeed him.
    Well what worked for the Brits, French and the Romans.
    Put a dictator in charge, but that would have been a no go from the get go.
    The country could have been split along religious lines, a Federation with revenues split by population.
    That would have still lead to a possible Kurdish state.
    It matters not as the place is falling apart, and after ISIL another civil/religious war will take its place.
    The Shia Militias will again be on their revenge kick as we say under Maliki, the present PM is weak.
    Corruption will run rampant again, well it still is.
    The Militias, loyal to Iran will run the place.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Well what worked for the Brits, French and the Romans.
    Put a dictator in charge, but that would have been a no go from the get go.
    The country could have been split along religious lines, a Federation with revenues split by population.
    That would have still lead to a possible Kurdish state.
    It matters not as the place is falling apart, and after ISIL another civil/religious war will take its place.
    The Shia Militias will again be on their revenge kick as we say under Maliki, the present PM is weak.
    Corruption will run rampant again, well it still is.
    The Militias, loyal to Iran will run the place.
    That's a pretty likely scenario.
    Put a dictator in charge? We already had a dictator in charge, and one who we once treated as an ally.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That's a pretty likely scenario.
    Put a dictator in charge? We already had a dictator in charge, and one who we once treated as an ally.
    Sadly it worked for a time.
    But Iraq is gong down the rabbit hole, quickly. Never know they could merge with Iran. If I recall correctly Iraq was once part of the Persian empire.

    Saudi is nothing more than a Dictatorship, hiding behind a Monarch, and the Wahhabi Imams help keep them in power.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Would we have invaded? Yes

    Would we have invaded? No

    Would we have invaded? Maybe

    Would we have invaded? Other


    SHOULD we have invaded? Yes

    SHOULD we have invaded? No

    SHOULD we have invaded? Maybe

    SHOULD we have invaded? Other

    If we knew the actual nature of Islam I wonder if we woulda or shoulda invaded.

    One unknown aspect of the true nature of Islam is that Muslims are more Muslim than Americans are American, IMHO.

    Another is that Muslims are commanded to make every other religion and form of government ion Earth disappear.


    If we knew that we would not be overwhelmingly greeted as liberators would we have had that humanitarian motive to add to the reasons why we believed we SHOULD have invaded?
    some radical islamists just hate the US governments politically .That is all.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Sadly it worked for a time.
    But Iraq is gong down the rabbit hole, quickly. Never know they could merge with Iran. If I recall correctly Iraq was once part of the Persian empire.

    Saudi is nothing more than a Dictatorship, hiding behind a Monarch, and the Wahhabi Imams help keep them in power.
    Yes, Iran/Iraq was once Persia. While Iran annexing Iraq may not be a great thing from the point of view of the west, it would be better than an Islamic state run by ISIS.

    and Saudi Arabia is really no different from what Iraq was, but we have to keep friendly relations with them because of the oil. Bin Laden and most of his cockroaches were Saudi, after all.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, Iran/Iraq was once Persia. While Iran annexing Iraq may not be a great thing from the point of view of the west, it would be better than an Islamic state run by ISIS.

    and Saudi Arabia is really no different from what Iraq was, but we have to keep friendly relations with them because of the oil. Bin Laden and most of his cockroaches were Saudi, after all.
    Wonder if those pages withheld from the 911 Investigation will ever see the light of day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Who are the "we" in the OP, and what is the "truth" about Islam that "we" were unaware of before invading Iraq?
    Last edited by Manc Skipper; 06-14-15 at 05:55 PM.
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