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  • Would we have invaded? Yes

    9 37.50%
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    1 4.17%
  • Would we have invaded? Maybe

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  • Would we have invaded? Other

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  • SHOULD we have invaded? Yes

    4 16.67%
  • SHOULD we have invaded? No

    18 75.00%
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    We're you carrying a bible, or wearing a star of David?
    Then I could have had problems, just like I would have if I were carrying an Iranian flag and a Qur'an down the street in my home town of Indianola, MS.

    You have to remember, guy, that most tourists carry their own problems with them. Yes, there are some that get in trouble through no fault of their own, but the vast majority of tourists who do have problems are the ones who (inadvertently or deliberately) disrespect local cultures and mores.

    What I'm referring to, however, isn't concerning tourists, but concerning the general level of crime in Dubai vs. that of Seattle...which is normally seen as relatively safe compared to many US cities.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Would we have invaded? Yes

    Would we have invaded? No

    Would we have invaded? Maybe

    Would we have invaded? Other


    SHOULD we have invaded? Yes

    SHOULD we have invaded? No

    SHOULD we have invaded? Maybe

    SHOULD we have invaded? Other

    If we knew the actual nature of Islam I wonder if we woulda or shoulda invaded.

    One unknown aspect of the true nature of Islam is that Muslims are more Muslim than Americans are American, IMHO.

    Another is that Muslims are commanded to make every other religion and form of government ion Earth disappear.

    If we knew that we would not be overwhelmingly greeted as liberators would we have had that humanitarian motive to add to the reasons why we believed we SHOULD have invaded?
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Would we have invaded? Yes

    Would we have invaded? No

    Would we have invaded? Maybe

    Would we have invaded? Other


    SHOULD we have invaded? Yes

    SHOULD we have invaded? No

    SHOULD we have invaded? Maybe

    SHOULD we have invaded? Other

    If we knew the actual nature of Islam I wonder if we woulda or shoulda invaded.

    One unknown aspect of the true nature of Islam is that Muslims are more Muslim than Americans are American, IMHO.

    Another is that Muslims are commanded to make every other religion and form of government ion Earth disappear.

    If we knew that we would not be overwhelmingly greeted as liberators would we have had that humanitarian motive to add to the reasons why we believed we SHOULD have invaded?
    Taz, you're not going back far enough. Oil, America's crack addiction, goes back to the 1950s when we overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and installed a US friendly dictator. This set in motion a course of events that led to insane crazies kicking out the dictators who want to destroy America (the great Satan) and wipe Israel off the map.

    But if you want to focus on more recent events, IMHO if we've invested 1/10 of the cost to go to war with Iraq instead into the development of car they don't require petroleum, half the vehicles on the roads today would be cars, trucks, vans and SUVs than run on electricity with long ranges. And for those who still prefer gasoline cars, because supply would be so plentiful because of the lack of demand, gas would be under a dollar a gallon. Plus no ISIS.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Then I could have had problems, just like I would have if I were carrying an Iranian flag and a Qur'an down the street in my home town of Indianola, MS.

    You have to remember, guy, that most tourists carry their own problems with them. Yes, there are some that get in trouble through no fault of their own, but the vast majority of tourists who do have problems are the ones who (inadvertently or deliberately) disrespect local cultures and mores.

    What I'm referring to, however, isn't concerning tourists, but concerning the general level of crime in Dubai vs. that of Seattle...which is normally seen as relatively safe compared to many US cities.
    True, but in Seattle one doesn't worry about having a limb removed for stealing an old ladies purse. I would also say that comparing carrying a "koran" in America to walking around with a christian bible in Dubi is an apples/oranges comparison...

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    we did not invade because of islam/nukes/or weapons of mass destruction...it was about Cheney and the oil...Halliburton....
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    yes bush created isil by knocking out saddam but Obama has to try to clean it up...Obama is not going to let American soldiers die for another country...Iraq...we almost have to wait until isis does an actual killing on American soil..then we can hurt them even though we have killed almost 10000 of them with air power ...I know that means nothing to a lot of people on this site. the wrong administration did it...lol....but if we had soldiers on the ground and killed 10000 wonder if it would have a different affect on American critics of the president
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    oil not nukes....boss
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    did anyone out here see the movie 'W' about George bush???? do you remember Colin Powell asking Cheney and bush what is the exit strategy for Iraq.... and Cheney said there is none....that statement was made for the oil and nothing else...
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    The rational for invading Iraq was they wouldn't allow weapons inspectors inspect weapons sites, they shot at our planes who enforced the no fly zone established and there was the threat of WMD's that some claim was based on faulty intelligence.

    Let me say that on another message board, which by the way was quite liberal, I publicly opposed the invasion. I still think it was a bad idea but once the invasion started victory was the only acceptable option.

    Having said that, knowledge of Islam had no impact on the decision to invade the country.
    With the advice from Sun Tzu and von Clausewitz in mind, "Know your enemy," how could Islam NOT have been considered a crucially important part of knowing the enemy?

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by plutonium View Post
    did anyone out here see the movie 'W' about George bush???? do you remember Colin Powell asking Cheney and bush what is the exit strategy for Iraq.... and Cheney said there is none....that statement was made for the oil and nothing else...
    Aside from your arguable conclusion, let's get to the meat of this matter.

    Don't you feel that oil is worth dying for?

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