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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    I honestly can't see how the question of the post-event wisdom of invading Iraq, can even be in dispute.

    And, I don't understand the Islamic references, in relation.

    (BTW - in case anyone wonders, the OP's absence in his thread can be explained by his appearing to have received a temp suspension)
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I know - I was just being facetious. The conservatives' Islamophobia just makes me want to get into their faces and scream about their ignorance and rank hypocrisy. Personally, I felt a heck of a lot safer walking down the street in Dubai than I do in downtown Seattle...and Seattle's a fairly safe city, as far as America goes....
    I would not know about Dubai. I have never been towards there. Most I have been is the UK, Germany, Belgium, Austria, Switzerland and Italy. And where I live in the Netherlands (the deepest South) it is pretty safe from most crimes. Especially violent crimes. Last year we had 137 murders over the entire year, in the entire country. Being killed here is not that big of a risk. In fact I am more likely to die in a traffic accident than from murder (570 deaths last year).
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    [QUOTE=Tazmanian Devil;1064693870]If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    What exactly is "the truth about Islam?"










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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Saddam was murdering countless people who had no way to defend themselves against him. Saddam needed to be removed from power, and sentenced for his crimes. The US should have found a better way to remove him from power, but I absolutely believe it was the right thing to do.

    I am under no false belief that his murdering was the primary reason our government invaded Iraq, but it is the reason I believe removing him was the right thing to do.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Saddam was murdering countless people who had no way to defend themselves against him. Saddam needed to be removed from power, and sentenced for his crimes. The US should have found a better way to remove him from power, but I absolutely believe it was the right thing to do.

    I am under no false belief that his murdering was the primary reason our government invaded Iraq, but it is the reason I believe removing him was the right thing to do.
    I don't necessarily disagree with that, but we made things worse. As bad a Saddam was, I believe IS is even worse for the people there.

    Our biggest mistake/shortcoming was in being naive... in believing that nation building was possible to our concept of what a nation should be when the culture there is entirely different from ours. They simply don't value the same things we do. That's neither good or bad, it's just different.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I don't necessarily disagree with that, but we made things worse. As bad a Saddam was, I believe IS is even worse for the people there.

    Our biggest mistake/shortcoming was in being naive... in believing that nation building was possible to our concept of what a nation should be when the culture there is entirely different from ours. They simply don't value the same things we do. That's neither good or bad, it's just different.
    Agreed. We did not go about doing almost anything properly. No argument from me there. The ONLY part of the Iraq war that I agree with was removing Saddam from power.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I would not know about Dubai. I have never been towards there. Most I have been is the UK, Germany, Belgium, Austria, Switzerland and Italy. And where I live in the Netherlands (the deepest South) it is pretty safe from most crimes. Especially violent crimes. Last year we had 137 murders over the entire year, in the entire country. Being killed here is not that big of a risk. In fact I am more likely to die in a traffic accident than from murder (570 deaths last year).
    Most Americans are so comfortable living in America, and they're spoon-fed lines that America's the greatest ever forever after, so most of them really have no clue what life is like outside America. It's really sad.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Agreed. We did not go about doing almost anything properly. No argument from me there. The ONLY part of the Iraq war that I agree with was removing Saddam from power.
    Removing a brutal dictator from power is an attractive proposition until you see what happens in the power vacuum left behind.

    What would happen if we, or China, or some other powerful nation, were to remove Kim Jung Un? Would NK then be a peaceful and democratic nation?

    Don't count on it.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Removing a brutal dictator from power is an attractive proposition until you see what happens in the power vacuum left behind.

    What would happen if we, or China, or some other powerful nation, were to remove Kim Jung Un? Would NK then be a peaceful and democratic nation?

    Don't count on it.
    I would support a well planned strategy to remove Kim Jong un.
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