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  • Would we have invaded? Yes

    9 37.50%
  • Would we have invaded? No

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  • Would we have invaded? Maybe

    1 4.17%
  • Would we have invaded? Other

    0 0%
  • SHOULD we have invaded? Yes

    4 16.67%
  • SHOULD we have invaded? No

    18 75.00%
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if this post gets seen by decision makers in the Muslim Brotherhood before it is seen by decision makers in Washington; the Pentagon, the State Dept. or the WH.
    Nope. I doubt it, you place a high value on basic run of the mill hatred. Hard questions you have no answer to, nor have the time to research the answers on those fav hate sites you haunt.

    Why when I asked questions and disagreed with you, your fallback position was to label me Muslim. How can one such as yourself be so simple to not have the standard fall back lines of hatred bookmarked for situations such as the questions I asked?
    Clearly you are at the bottom rung of preaching hatred, a basic Plebe hoping to share the hatred, to convince others to join in the hatred. But being the simple person you are lost for answers to simple questions.

    The world has seen how the uneducated, those that are filled with hate have committed atrocity after atrocity.
    Recent ones would be the Armenian genocide, the Shoah (Holocaust?
    The Former Yugoslavia, Rwanda.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post


    Excellent questions.

    I don't know.

    One alternative would be to abandon the area completely as much as we can afford to, (oil interests in mind).

    Another way might be to get bogged down in a good guy vs bad guy situation in a virtual recreation of the Israeli-Palestinian impasse with no end in sight.

    And we know that even when Ataturk secularized Turkey for almost 100 years the fundamentalists have come back to take over once they had the slightest opportunity to do so.

    As I sit here typing and thinking, I am beginning to wonder if we might be in for a period of consolidation into armed and restricted camps/nations.

    Ironically, that is the way Islam has always seen the world, IINM. As the House of Islam and the House of War. Anything that isn't one is the other.

    And so we might have to look at those nations which are already Muslim as gone and not salvageable.

    And those nations which are still non Muslims but undergoing Islamization, those should be given the highest priority and defended like hell lest they be overwhelmed.

    The Cold War would be like a walk in the park compared to what MIGHT have to be done.

    And you know what?

    I wouldn't be surprised if this post gets seen by decision makers in the Muslim Brotherhood before it is seen by decision makers in Washington; the Pentagon, the State Dept. or the WH.
    It's why I think Pres. Obama was correct in calling on moderate Muslim nations AND the new Iraqi government to get involved with this particular fight. I think he fully realizes the quandary we're in:

    1. Can't go "All-In" and fight a war that essentially has become a culture war not just in Iraq but in parts of the Middle-East.

    2. Can't ignore OUR responsibility for opening up Pandora's Box to begin with.

    I think the criticism he's received for calling on the Iraq government and Arab nations to take up arms to protect their right to survive AND their nation's sovereignty is grossly misplaced. People may think his slow walk to a U.S. military build up is him tip-toeing that imaginary line, but I think it's the right call considering how ISIL/ISIS's goal IS to destroy any nation (one person at a time if they have to) who disagrees with their quest for power and legitimacy.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    I bet it doesn't get seen by any of them.
    if the decision makers in Washington actually read DP looking for ideas on which to make policy, that would explain a lot of the policy that they have made.

    But, seriously, I doubt that they do. They're perfectly capable of creating a real cluster(bleep!) all on their own without reading what we have to say.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    if the decision makers in Washington actually read DP looking for ideas on which to make policy, that would explain a lot of the policy that they have made.

    But, seriously, I doubt that they do. They're perfectly capable of creating a real cluster(bleep!) all on their own without reading what we have to say.
    It's not just silly, it's grandiose. "Important people are waiting to hear what I say!!!"

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    No barking here. You are like a whiny kid on a one way topic of Hate Muslims.
    I'm like the gas gauge registering the amount of fuel in your tank.

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    I'm like the traffic signal telling you when it isn't safe to proceed.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    It's why I think Pres. Obama was correct in calling on moderate Muslim nations AND the new Iraqi government to get involved with this particular fight. I think he fully realizes the quandary we're in:

    1. Can't go "All-In" and fight a war that essentially has become a culture war not just in Iraq but in parts of the Middle-East.

    2. Can't ignore OUR responsibility for opening up Pandora's Box to begin with.

    I think the criticism he's received for calling on the Iraq government and Arab nations to take up arms to protect their right to survive AND their nation's sovereignty is grossly misplaced. People may think his slow walk to a U.S. military build up is him tip-toeing that imaginary line, but I think it's the right call considering how ISIL/ISIS's goal IS to destroy any nation (one person at a time if they have to) who disagrees with their quest for power and legitimacy.
    You are one thoughtful poster.

    Thank you for giving me something worth thinking about.


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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Nope. I doubt it, you place a high value on basic run of the mill hatred. Hard questions you have no answer to, nor have the time to research the answers on those fav hate sites you haunt.

    Why when I asked questions and disagreed with you, your fallback position was to label me Muslim. How can one such as yourself be so simple to not have the standard fall back lines of hatred bookmarked for situations such as the questions I asked?
    Clearly you are at the bottom rung of preaching hatred, a basic Plebe hoping to share the hatred, to convince others to join in the hatred. But being the simple person you are lost for answers to simple questions.

    The world has seen how the uneducated, those that are filled with hate have committed atrocity after atrocity.
    Recent ones would be the Armenian genocide, the Shoah (Holocaust?
    The Former Yugoslavia, Rwanda.
    Okay.

    And what if I am not full of hatred?

    What would your conclusion have to be?

    And be careful not to make yourself look foolish here.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    I'm like the gas gauge registering the amount of fuel in your tank.

    I'm like the alarm clock waking you up at the appointed time.

    I'm like the traffic signal telling you when it isn't safe to proceed.

    I'm like the dog in the night alerting you that something needs your attention.

    I'm like the weatherman warning of storms ahead.

    Why would anyone not be grateful for that kind of service and function being performed on their behalf?

    Unless they were part of the storm?
    I see that I have moved from being labeled a Muslim, a derogatory term by people of your ilk.
    Now I am a 5th columnist.
    Kerilley you sure are slow like.
    You should research those hate site for better comebacks.
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    Now off you go and see you in a few centuries.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    Okay.

    And what if I am not full of hatred?

    What would your conclusion have to be?


    And be careful not to make yourself look foolish here.
    I am much to old and been thru Hell more than enough times to not give a tinkers damn about appearing foolish.
    Your posts are what defined you.
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