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  • Would we have invaded? Yes

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  • Would we have invaded? Maybe

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  • Would we have invaded? Other

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  • SHOULD we have invaded? Yes

    4 16.67%
  • SHOULD we have invaded? No

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Would we have invaded? Yes

    Would we have invaded? No

    Would we have invaded? Maybe

    Would we have invaded? Other


    SHOULD we have invaded? Yes

    SHOULD we have invaded? No

    SHOULD we have invaded? Maybe

    SHOULD we have invaded? Other

    If we knew the actual nature of Islam I wonder if we woulda or shoulda invaded.

    One unknown aspect of the true nature of Islam is that Muslims are more Muslim than Americans are American, IMHO.

    Another is that Muslims are commanded to make every other religion and form of government ion Earth disappear.

    If we knew that we would not be overwhelmingly greeted as liberators would we have had that humanitarian motive to add to the reasons why we believed we SHOULD have invaded?
    We didn't know too much about Islam, but we knew a lot about Islam's OIL. The Neo-Cons all know about OIL. There are too many banking and profit agendas involved to suggest that Islam is the face or cause of the War. We, the USA, are about profits, banking, business, sales and marketing, agendas, and corrupt politics, ergo a comprehensive approach with maximum analytical review is required to produce a realistic question.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    We didn't know too much about Islam, but we knew a lot about Islam's OIL. The Neo-Cons all know about OIL. There are too many banking and profit agendas involved to suggest that Islam is the face or cause of the War. We, the USA, are about profits, banking, business, sales and marketing, agendas, and corrupt politics, ergo a comprehensive approach with maximum analytical review is required to produce a realistic question.
    I don't believe it had anything to do with oil. The region was stable and the availability of oil wasn't an issue, nor did it appear that it would become an issue.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I don't believe it had anything to do with oil. The region was stable and the availability of oil wasn't an issue, nor did it appear that it would become an issue.
    That statement is the same as saying the war had nothing to do with money. We are a Nation attempting to control the rest of the World with Banking hegemony. We are CORPORATISM/CAPITALISM and that is profit and loss. We have historically profitted from Wars as the Nations most consistent Industry. I call history as the witness to these words.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The invasion of Iraq was one of the worst blunders ever.
    I don't know... remaking Point Break and Red Dawn seems like a far worse blunder.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    I think if you created a poll that asked, "Knowing what we know now, should we have invaded Iraq?" then that would have been sufficient. To that question, I would answer that there isn't anyone besides lunatic Islamic fundamentalists and Iran that the invasion of Iraq ended up working out very well for. It kind of seems like everyone else lost something in the aftermath of that.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    The actual nature of Islam? What exactly would that be? Isis? That is not the actual nature of Islam. That we in the West have had the enormous luck to be growing up in a reasonably enlightened society made us why we are so democratic, sometimes evolved and respectful for a lot of other religions (our religious wars have been fought and the battle is largely over).

    Most Muslims live in countries where people are as uneducated as it humanly possible. The only education they get is either from the Imam or from the equally undemocratic, totally not enlightened rulers. It took "us" in the West centuries to have the enlightened and democratic society we have now. Our educational system has grown throughout the centuries. Our people are (usually) free to think for themselves.

    We cannot expect that Muslims will make this jump from uneducated dumb religious isolated tribal morons to Western society standard citizens. To even think that is absolutely outside of reality. If you have been told for centuries that gays are bad, Jews are evil, Christians are violent oppressors and that Islam is the only path to enlightenment, you will not be swayed by a government put in place by Western powers/forced to adopt more Western morality.

    In two or three generations the situation will have been massively changed, in part because of the internet and people getting to know more people outside of their own very restrictive/conservative societies and getting to realize that there is not so much difference between them and the rest of the world.
    Unfortunately, in the eyes of most conservatives, you are now officially a commie/nazi/socialist/atheist/Muslim heretic who hates freedom and wants to impose Sharia law on America. Welcome to the group!
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I don't know... remaking Point Break and Red Dawn seems like a far worse blunder.
    I got an idea! Let's try remaking one of our favorite brands - let's call it...New Coke!
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I got an idea! Let's try remaking one of our favorite brands - let's call it...New Coke!
    That could work... what doesn't work is remaking Swayze flicks.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Unfortunately, in the eyes of most conservatives, you are now officially a commie/nazi/socialist/atheist/Muslim heretic who hates freedom and wants to impose Sharia law on America. Welcome to the group!
    Well, I am a social democrat, already owned up to that and I am, as I have already owned up to too, an atheist.

    The commie, nazi, muslim characters do not rally fit but in the past I have been made out for this and more but as I know better, these comments always run off me a like water of a ducks back.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, I am a social democrat, already owned up to that and I am, as I have already owned up to too, an atheist.

    The commie, nazi, muslim characters do not rally fit but in the past I have been made out for this and more but as I know better, these comments always run off me a like water of a ducks back.
    I know - I was just being facetious. The conservatives' Islamophobia just makes me want to get into their faces and scream about their ignorance and rank hypocrisy. Personally, I felt a heck of a lot safer walking down the street in Dubai than I do in downtown Seattle...and Seattle's a fairly safe city, as far as America goes....
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