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  • Would we have invaded? Yes

    9 37.50%
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  • Would we have invaded? Maybe

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  • SHOULD we have invaded? Yes

    4 16.67%
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    18 75.00%
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Oh yes they can.
    Anyone can twist a religions text(s).
    Then tell us why so few Christians do it that you know all their names from memory?

    And then try to explain why the numbers of Muslim terrorist attacks since 9/11/01 is 26,114.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    Then tell us why so few Christians do it that you know all their names from memory?

    And then try to explain why the numbers of Muslim terrorist attacks since 9/11/01 is 26,114.
    Numbers from a site that demonizes all Muslims. Right.
    To you there is no such thing as a Muslim loyal to the country they were born in or immigrated to - I am referring to NA and the EU.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Numbers from a site that demonizes all Muslims. Right.
    To you there is no such thing as a Muslim loyal to the country they were born in or immigrated to - I am referring to NA and the EU.
    Oh, I am CERTAIN they exist!

    The problem is no one knows from moment to moment where their allegiances lie.

    Not for sure.

    (And why should I risk my life, my loved ones' lives or my country for the sake of political correctness???)

    They COULD be lying as is allowed by Mohammed.

    Or they could be a Kafir/Muslim for all intents and purposes by day yet in their hearts they are actually Muslim/Kafirs or just Muslims.

    Like the Chapel Hill Muslim dental students who looked so handsome and lovely and nice and moderate, until their Facebook and Twitter posts were revealed to be anti Jewish, Anti Zionist and hate filled pro Islamic in nature.

    See?

    You never know.

    And the Boston Bombers and their "moderate Muslim friends" well they took the honors for making ALL Muslims suspects in the minds of all Kafirs.

    Munafiqs can be reactivated in jihad

    One of the surprising things about Islam is how non-practicing Muslims often return to active service in jihad. Sometimes it only takes a personal contact or a rousing sermon to turn a non-practicing, ‘moderate’ Muslim into a jihadist. This is similar to the recruitment of young pacifists in time of war. The Tsarnaev brothers were nice, ‘moderate’ Muslims and then they became religious jihadists.


    Boston Munafiqs

    How did ‘munafiqs’ behave during the Boston Marathon Bombings? When Djokhar Tsarnaev was about to be arrested, he called his non-practicing, ‘secular’ Muslim friends to dispose of incriminating evidence in his dorm room. They eagerly complied. When members of the Tsarnaevs’ mosque were asked about the two brothers, they kept silent about what they knew. When recruited, the munafiqs acted on the side of jihad.
    When The Jihad Comes, Whose Side Will You Be On? - Political Islam
    Last edited by Tazmanian Devil; 06-16-15 at 06:28 PM.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Numbers from a site that demonizes all Muslims. Right.
    To you there is no such thing as a Muslim loyal to the country they were born in or immigrated to - I am referring to NA and the EU.

    Look, if you REALLY wanted to convince us of your solidarity with Westerners you would be more truthful with us about Islam.

    You would tell us what the Koran says about how Kafirs should be treated.

    You should reveal what you know about the plans to conquer America and the world and etc.

    Get my drift?

    It really hurts your cause for us to find the truth on our own and realize you were either lying to us all along or you were content to say nothing while we would be led to the (figurative or literal) slaughter!

    You can't be trusted.

    And everything you do to deny, deny, deny and conceal, cover up and spin the truth into a half lie and attack anyone who tries to tell the truth or spread the truth only tightens the figurative nooses around your own necks.

    You are taught that war is deceit.

    In the Koran. From the perfect Muslim.

    And you are taught to emulate the example of the perfect Muslim.

    And that is how you were taught. It is what you believe. And when we weren't alarmed nor aware of the threat of Islam you could carry on a double life with no problem.

    Muslim when you needed to be and kafir when you wanted to be.
    or vice versa.

    But now you are being squeezed such that you must choose and it may be too late already.

    Your deception has worked against you.

    Now the time has come to lie in the bed you've chosen.

    You aren't worth trusting.

    And it is too late to really earn our trust.

    I don't envy your plight.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    Look, if you REALLY wanted to convince us of your solidarity with Westerners you would be more truthful with us about Islam.
    I do not give a hoot about a persons religion

    You would tell us what the Koran says about how Kafirs should be treated.
    Aware as well as some nasty things in the OT

    You should reveal what you know about the plans to conquer America and the world and etc.
    You really believe your own tripe?
    Get my drift?
    Yes your mind has drifted into a conspiracy theorist reality. Quite the trip.

    It really hurts your cause for us to find the truth on our own and realize you were either lying to us all along or you were content to say nothing while we would be led to the (figurative or literal) slaughter!
    Lying, where have i lied. You are the one insulting members on the board.

    You can't be trusted.
    Depends upon what you are referring to now don't it.

    And everything you do to deny, deny , deny, conceal, cover up, spin the truth into a half lie and attack anyone who tries to tell the truth or spread the truth only tightens the figurative nooses around your own necks.
    I see you stutter while typing. Try singing when typing, I heard it can work. Well it did for a country singer. Who knows.
    Myself, my opinion based only upon your posts, your insults, your deflection of answer questions, your temper tantrums,with members show you to be a ERWF with an agenda
    Who, how, and where have I attacked?
    Do you know what ERWF means?
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    So, Taz, based on the content of your posts, the only logical conclusion is that either the Muslims are going to take over the world, or we need to start an all out war against all of Islam.

    Interesting position, I must say.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    Gee, then it shouldn't be at all difficult for you to discredit his quotations from the Koran....
    I'm not going to waste my time debunking a crank who has absolutely no education in the field, and makes a profit off of fear-mongering. But thanks for the invitation.

    By the way, Christians turned to the Bible for centuries to justify countless wars on one another and other nations. Crack open a history book one of these years.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, Taz, based on the content of your posts, the only logical conclusion is that either the Muslims are going to take over the world, or we need to start an all out war against all of Islam.

    Interesting position, I must say.
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    Three paragraphs. (Check the source) However, for readability's sake I will format them into more than three DP paragraphs.


    An Ethical Basis for War
    Aug 8 2007 | by Bill Warner

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    by Bill Warner

    KNOW THE ENEMY

    This work is based upon Sun Tsu’s The Art of War a 2,500 year old Chinese book of strategy.

    [B]THE ENEMY The word islam means submission . “ Submission” is a political thought. Islam claims that all who do not submit are unbelievers (kafirs). It is time to reject being named by Islam. We are not “unbelievers.” Muslims are the slaves of Allah. We are not the slaves of Allah. We do not submit. We are the Free . Instead of Muslims and nonbelievers, it is Muslims and the Free. Muslims, therefore, are the un-Free. [If you don’t know a word, look it up on the last page.] The story of Islam starts with the Jews since Islam is a Jewish heresy. The Koran endlessly adapts Jewish stories such as those of Moses and Noah to show that Mohammed is the prophet of Allah.

    The Ten Commandments is a good place to start looking at Islam. They fall into two categories—religious and ethical. Ten Commandments—Religious

    Do not have any other gods before Me.
    Do not make an image or any likeness of Me.
    Do not swear falsely by the name of the Lord.
    Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. Ten Commandments—Ethical
    Honor your father and your mother.
    Do not murder.
    Do not commit adultery.
    Do not steal.
    Do not bear false witness against your neighbor.
    Do not covet your neighbor’s property.


    The only religion that follows all the religious commandments is that of the Jews. Christians do not follow the Sabbath commandment and some would argue that the Catholics and Orthodox sects use images that violate the image commandment. Hindus, Buddhists and atheists don’t follow any of the religious commandments. There are no two religions that agree on the Ten Commandments.


    An Ethical Basis for War - Political Islam
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    Muslims who engage in jihad can find the legitimacy to do so in the Quran. Christians who engage in any violence are betraying Christianity”s teachings and can find no legitimacy to do what they do in the New Testament.
    lol

    Ah yes, the good ol' No True Scotsman fallacy. The only "True" Muslims are the ones who attack Christians, and the only "True" Christians are the ones who did not interpret Bible passages to justify centuries of violence and warfare. We should ignore the hundreds of millions of moderate Muslims who want to live in peace, and the Christians who want to bomb any nation that does not bend to our will back to the Stone Age.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but the historical fact is that people justified centuries of warfare, violence, invasions, slavery, forced conversions and oppression based on the New Testament, pronouncements of Christian institutions, and declarations of leading Christian leaders. This is not to say that Christianity is exclusively negative, only that exculpating Christianity and Christians from their legacy of violence is utterly ridiculous.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    lol

    Ah yes, the good ol' No True Scotsman fallacy. The only "True" Muslims are the ones who attack Christians, and the only "True" Christians are the ones who did not interpret Bible passages to justify centuries of violence and warfare. We should ignore the hundreds of millions of moderate Muslims who want to live in peace, and the Christians who want to bomb any nation that does not bend to our will back to the Stone Age.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but the historical fact is that people justified centuries of warfare, violence, invasions, slavery, forced conversions and oppression based on the New Testament, pronouncements of Christian institutions, and declarations of leading Christian leaders. This is not to say that Christianity is exclusively negative, only that exculpating Christianity and Christians from their legacy of violence is utterly ridiculous.
    You will, no doubt, be interested in seeing a graphic illustration of how Islam spread due to violent Jihad.



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