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  • Would we have invaded? Yes

    9 37.50%
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  • Would we have invaded? Maybe

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    0 0%
  • SHOULD we have invaded? Yes

    4 16.67%
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    18 75.00%
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    No doubt about that.

    But what does Mohammed command of all Muslims?
    he never wants them to attack US government naturally..........
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    he never wants them to attack US government naturally..........
    Your command of English, though impressive, fails you on this post.

    Of course he wants them to attack non Muslim governments!

    You must know very little about Islam.

    Here. Let's dispense with the fol de rol.

    When The Jihad Comes, Whose Side Will You Be On?
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    by Kenneth Roberts, Associate Writer

    “My brother and I came to the Prophet and I requested him to take the pledge of allegiance from us for migration. He said, “Migration has passed away with its people.” I asked, “For what will you take the pledge of allegiance from us then?” He (Mohammed) said, “I will take (the pledge) for Islam and JIHAD.” – (Bukhari 4,52,208)

    Mohammed says allegiance to Islam includes the political act of jihad. Jihad is holy fighting against the Kafirs; it is the personal duty of every Muslim. If a Muslim does not participate in jihad, he will die a ‘hypocrite’ and burn in hell. Mohammed is the authority on Islam.

    Why don’t Muslims denounce the terrorists?

    Islam is harsh on ‘hypocrites’ (munafiqoon in Arabic). Munafiqs are ‘moderate Muslims’. They give only lip service to Islam. Mohammed wanted to burn the munafiqs to death in their homes for not participating in prayers or jihad.

    Nonetheless, participate or not, they must not hinder jihad by thought, word or deed. Islam’s ‘munafiqs’ sit back and look the other way, while jihadists fight the Kafirs and subdue them. When a munafiq helps Kafirs during jihad, he becomes a traitor to Islam; he is considered to be a Kafir at war with Islam, so jihadists may kill him too.

    When jihad comes, a munafiq is not neutral. He is on the side of jihad, rather than on the side of Kafirs. A munafiq is silent when the jihadists knock on their non-Muslim neighbor’s door. The reason for this silence is in the Koran (28.86) ‘never be a supporter of the disbelievers’.
    When The Jihad Comes, Whose Side Will You Be On? - Political Islam

    Do you know any Muslims?
    Last edited by Gina; 06-15-15 at 03:52 PM. Reason: Edited for Fair Use

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Well you appear to have a one sided view of Muslims.
    Or is this just Muslims in the ME
    Or does it include the EU and NA.
    For one that appears to demonize Muslims, you must have solutions?
    When The Jihad Comes, Whose Side Will You Be On? - Political Islam

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    You must know very little about Islam.

    Here. Let's dispense with the fol de rol.
    So says the person who has never even read the Koran or talked to a Muslim and instead gets his info from rightwing blogs and Glenn Beck. Your knowledge of Islam is equal to that of a Klansman's knowledge of black people.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    So says the person who has never even read the Koran or talked to a Muslim and instead gets his info from rightwing blogs and Glenn Beck. Your knowledge of Islam is equal to that of a Klansman's knowledge of black people.
    I get it that there are some Muslims who pretend to be just as Westernized as non Muslims.

    And maybe some of them actually are.

    Good for them.

    But that doesn't at all change the nature of Islam.

    And for a clue to that you can't rely on the "nice" Muslim you may happen to know.

    You must go to THE EXPERT on Islam.

    Mohammed.

    Everything I say comes to me from someone who has studied Islam painstakingly, just as an Imam might.

    Only, instead of a Kafir like me being lied to when trying to learn the truth abnout Islamic doctrine, my source tells me the truth.

    And how do I know it is the truth?

    Because not once, in the many weeks that I have been reporting the info I have found at Political Islam - Islam's ideology about unbelievers, Kafirs, has anyone ever been able to successfully dispute or dispel anything I have posted.

    Not once.

    And many have tried.

    And you KNOW they would if they could.

    And now you are doing your best to discredit me when everyone knows if you could discredit the information I post I would be similarly discredited.

    But because what I am posting IS the truth you are left here impotently trying to defend your belief from being revealed to those you would conquer.

    That is why Islam has made such inroads in Europe.

    Anti-"Hate Speech" laws prevent anyone from telling the truth about Islam lest it be labeled hate speech.

    And that gives Muslims an umbrella of protection against Kafirs finding out in the newspapers, magazines, TV, radio and the internet that the goal of Islam is global conquest and the domination of mankind through the use of violent and non violent Jihad.

    How many of you know that:

    Islam is far more of a political system than a religion.

    There is no unmitigated good in Islam for the Kafir non-Muslim).

    Islam’s ethical system is dualistic and is not based on the Golden Rule.

    Islamic doctrine cannot be reconciled with our concepts of human rights and our Constitution.

    The great majority, 96%, of all Islamic doctrine about women subjugates them.

    The Sunna (what Mohammed did and said) is more important than the Koran in a Muslim’s daily life.
    http://www.politicalislam.com/author/

    Oh, and how many times have your friendly Muslims just listed all of the things that the Koran, Sira and Hadith say should be done to you by the conquering Muslims?

    How many have even admitted to you that global conquest was the goal of Islam and that all Muslims are required to perform Jihad?

    If these friends are so great why wouldn't they warn you or tip you off or keep you apprised of the truth about Islam?

    Three guesses as to why they haven't.

    We are being duped.
    Last edited by Tazmanian Devil; 06-15-15 at 03:50 AM.

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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Precisely. So taking out KJU without a backup plan would just be another Iraq in the making.
    This would not be necessarily true. The Koreas exist in a completely different social, cultural and historical context. Arabs and Muslims fighting each other is almost natural. The Koreas were for all intents and purposes a pretty united country where sectarian violence and ethnically based political divisions are almost unheard of throughout history. So at most, we'd have a situation more like that of Germany. It would be a country where there would be noticeable differences along the geographical lines of division.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    So says the person who has never even read the Koran or talked to a Muslim and instead gets his info from rightwing blogs and Glenn Beck. Your knowledge of Islam is equal to that of a Klansman's knowledge of black people.
    How rude of me.

    I have been monopolizing the debate on Islam here.

    I think it is time for you and anyone else who knows more about Islam to share your interpretation of it from the point of view of doctrine and how it pertains to unbelievers, or Kafirs.

    Kafirs are what most of our DP members are.

    Please, take the floor.

    Educate us non believing Kafirs about the goals and the true nature of Islam.


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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    How rude of me.

    I have been monopolizing the debate on Islam here.

    I think it is time for you and anyone else who knows more about Islam to share your interpretation of it from the point of view of doctrine and how it pertains to unbelievers, or Kafirs.

    Kafirs are what most of our DP members are.

    Please, take the floor.

    Educate us non believing Kafirs about the goals and the true nature of Islam.

    He can't educate the ignorant.
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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    How do you know that termites can't eat your house from under you and from around you without doing an inspection of your house?

    You remain resistant to educating yourself about Islam.

    How can you look yourself in the mirror?

    How can you blithely spew ignorance and still pose as a credible pundit?



    They have taken over other countries using a minimum of violence. And others with violent and non violent jihad.

    And some by using the promise of Democratic rule only to abolish democracy once they achieved power.

    You are woefully uninformed.

    Please stop talking about things you have no idea about.

    Here is a rough analysis of how they have done it and are doing it elsewhere.

    Articles: The Five Stages of Islam
    You accuse me of "blithely spewing ignorance," then quote the American Thinker?


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    Re: If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazmanian Devil View Post
    I agree.

    And if we'd better understood Islam beforehand, I believe we'd have done things differently or not invade at all.
    I vote for not having invaded at all, but then, it's way too late for that.
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