If we'd known the truth about Islam would we & should we have invaded Iraq?

lol... So apparently, Bill French, who again was a physicist with zero training in theology or comparative religion, is the ONLY Westerner who understands Islam.

You do realize there are people who get an education in comparative religion and Islamic studies, yes? Who disagree with French's Muslim-hating perspective? Or is everyone wrong, except you and French?

Knowing or not knowing what Islam was about nor the interpretation of its perceived war-like religious passages had absolutely nothing to do with going to war in Iraq. I don't think it mattered one bit. Why? Because we were never at war with the Iraqi government, not then and not now. Nor were we at war with the Iraqi people. If anything, there are a lot of Islamic religious fanatics or just plan crazy nut job jihadist who have co-opted the religion for their own purposes who have caused the most significant problems in the region and have caused mayhem. But what Americans knew about Islam has nothing to do with it except maybe the politics of it all.

I wonder why people in the ME might get a little bitter:



And there is roughly 60 million refugees now. Half of which are children.

JANFU said:

You are always turning the questions around.
Constant deflection when asked for your view, not Mohammed's, your view.
But all I get is crap.
The sites you link to are nothing but hate.
How you arrived at a state of mind where you hate 1.3 Billion Muslims is beyond my capabilities to understand.
No I am not simple minded.
I could never understand hate so deeply ingrained.

So the best I can offer on your hate, your hate site links, your opinion is get a life.
Your posts are filled with hate, racism, bigotry and utter idiocy and all has been noted not only by me, but others on the Board.
Though I do wonder if you carry on like this at public functions?

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I will guess you are a Muslim. This post is written in that context.

What I believe in is being a conduit for information which will give American non Muslims, i.e. Kafirs, the information you have very nicely kept hidden from us about Islam.

This is information we have a right and a need to know in order to protect ourselves from the campaign of Jihad directed against ALL non Muslims, starting 1400 years ago, by The Prophet.

And you seem to feel put upon because we would protect ourselves from you?

That is unreasonable to expect.

In the early 20th Century there was a woman named Mary Mallon, who earned the derogatory nickname, "Typhoid Mary."

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An illustration of Mary Mallon, also known as Typhoid Mary. - (Public Domain)
An illustration of Typhoid Mary that appeared in 1909 in The New York American. (Public Domain)

Mary Mallon, now known as Typhoid Mary, seemed a healthy woman when a health inspector knocked on her door in 1907, yet she was the cause of several typhoid outbreaks. Since Mary was the first "healthy carrier" of typhoid fever in the United States, she did not understand how someone not sick could spread disease -- so she tried to fight back.

After a trial and then a short run from health officials, Typhoid Mary was recaptured and forced to live in relative seclusion upon North Brother Island off New York.

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The Story of Typhoid Mary

The ONLY thing one can say in her defense is that she really did not believe or understand how she, a healthy woman, could possibly have infected others.

Neither you, nor any other American Muslims, can claim you do not know the goals of Islam is to conquer the World for Allah.

You can not claim to be innocent as you cry, 'woe is me I am a persecuted innocent Muslim.'


You know what the Koran says about kafirs. You know what the plan of conquest entails, generally. You know that we have been and to a great extent, still are completely blind to what you know is planned and currently being carried out to bring Islam's goals to fruition.

And yet you say nothing to warn us.

You contine to play the innocent little victim of racism and bigoty.

Well, here is the bottom line.

You can't be trusted.

None of you.

Oh, some here and there may be trustworthy, but it is IN SPITE OF what the Prophet instructs.

So, as you deceive us and keep us in the dark as you practice Jihad (YES JIHAD) on these very pages, you have duped enough of us Kafirs to take pity on you while you sit back and see just how gullible we will remain.

And all I am doing is making the Prophet's words, deeds and instructions known to my fellow Kafirs so as to open our eyes to the war being waged on us.

Islam is waging war while we are waging nice.

Jihadists are playing to win while we are playing to tie.

Well, I think it is time we wake up to the truth.

You wouldn't blame us for trying to prevent being conquered would you?

Doesn't the Prophet say something about that?

Objective Voice said:

Knowing or not knowing what Islam was about nor the interpretation of its perceived war-like religious passages had absolutely nothing to do with going to war in Iraq. I don't think it mattered one bit. Why? Because we were never at war with the Iraqi government, not then and not now. Nor were we at war with the Iraqi people. If anything, there are a lot of Islamic religious fanatics or just plan crazy nut job jihadist who have co-opted the religion for their own purposes who have caused the most significant problems in the region and have caused mayhem. But what Americans knew about Islam has nothing to do with it except maybe the politics of it all.

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I see by the star under your stats that you served or are serving. Thank you for that.

I wonder if our political and military leaders knew that the Iraqi Muslims would always tend to side with those who practice true Islam instead of unbelievers, if that would have made them think twice before doing what they did.

I have always been a supporter of the invasion.

But when I saw the Iraqi forces fleeing before the advance of ISIS recently, It made me wonder wtf that was all about.

I found the answer here.

You may start reading anywhere but I have snipped what I hope will give you the answer I finally came to understand and I hope it will open your eyes as it did mine.

When The Jihad Comes, Whose Side Will You Be On? - Political Islam

Why don’t Muslims denounce the terrorists?

Islam is harsh on ‘hypocrites’ (munafiqoon in Arabic). Munafiqs are ‘moderate Muslims’. They give only lip service to Islam. Mohammed wanted to burn the munafiqs to death in their homes for not participating in prayers or jihad. Nonetheless, participate or not, they must not hinder jihad by thought, word or deed. Islam’s ‘munafiqs’ sit back and look the other way, while jihadists fight the Kafirs and subdue them. When a munafiq helps Kafirs during jihad, he becomes a traitor to Islam; he is considered to be a Kafir at war with Islam, so jihadists may kill him too.

When jihad comes, a munafiq is not neutral. He is on the side of jihad, rather than on the side of Kafirs. A munafiq is silent when the jihadists knock on their non-Muslim neighbor’s door. The reason for this silence is in the Koran (28.86) ‘never be a supporter of the disbelievers’.

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The Iraqis have been raised on Islam.

It is more intrinsic to their being than Bonanza, Gunsmoke, Johnny Carson, baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet was/is to ours.

They pray five times a day. We don't do ANY of the baseball, hot dogs and etc. that frequently nor do we do them every day.

And once you understand what the Koran says, what Mohammed said, about unbelievers and those who would choose to befriend Kafirs instead of being loyal to their fellow Muslims, you will see why I posted this thread.

And then to make the lesson complete, you must see how much effort and drama and theatricality ISIS put into producing the Jordanian Pilot Roast video.

It really is quite a production.

To OUR sensibilities it is just one long 'gorified' execution video. A terrorist act and snuff film, etc.

But how do Iraqi or other M.E. Muslims perceive the video?

I'm guessing that this video strikes terror into the hearts of ANY Muslim who would act as a hypocrite or an apostate by siding with the Americans, the Westerners, the Democracy of the new Iraqi government, the modernist Jordanians, those who fight for the Kafirs or alongside them, those who support MAN's LAWS instead of Shariah Law and etc.

The Pilot Roast is a warning of what would happen to ANYONE who fights against true Jihad if they are caught by Islam's TRUEST warriors.

And the thing is, every single man in the Iraqi Army KNOWS THIS. They KNOW ISIS is theologically true. ISIS represents the gold standard. Old school. The Real McCoy.

ISIS does exactly what Mohammed did and exactly what he taught his disciples (Caliphs) to do, and exactly what he instructed all Muslims to do until the end of time.

ISIS does it exactly the way the Prophet did it HIMSELF in the last half of his life.

And every Muslim in the M.E. KNOWS this.

CONCLUDED IN THE NEXT POST DOWN. #231

CONTINUED FROM POST #230.

We are the ones who don't understand it and that is to our detriment.

Know your enemy is what Sun Tzu and von Clausewitz taught.

We are almost 15 years removed from 9/11 and we STILL are ignorant of Islam. And many of us actually prefer remaining ignorant!

A sure way to lose.

Anyway, back to ISIS.

When push comes to shove, i.e. when jihad comes knocking on the Iraqi soldiers' door, (when ISIS starts advancing on their positions) many of the Iraqi government soldiers experience a genuine 'come to Mohammed' moment.

And that is the bottom line here.

They can't be trusted to continue to fight for freedom as we know it unless we are there in great strength.

It is absolutely not ingrained in them that Freedom & Democracy is the highest ideal.

To THEIR culture, upbringing, society, teaching and way of life for all of their lives, ISLAM and MOHAMMED and the Koran, Sira and Hadith are, have been and will remain IT.

And if THAT isn't enough, the M.E. saying made famous by OBL should be kept in mind.

"No one ever said it better than Osama bin Laden: “When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse.”.

While we were there and in numbers there is no question that we were the strong horse and the Iraqis responded to our strength.

But once we left, ISIS became the strong horse.

And that will always be so.

Therefore, I believe if our political and military leaders understood what you (hopefully) now understand, they might have done somethings differently than they did.

Visbek said:

lol... So apparently, Bill French, who again was a physicist with zero training in theology or comparative religion, is the ONLY Westerner who understands Islam.

You do realize there are people who get an education in comparative religion and Islamic studies, yes? Who disagree with French's Muslim-hating perspective? Or is everyone wrong, except you and French?

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Then why haven't our Jihad problems been better explained by those other folks?

You know that what I am posting is factual. If it wasn't you and a dozen others would be all over me citing inaccuracy and falsehoods left and right.

But that isn't happening.

And so, if they aren't saying my info is inaccurate and you aren't saying it is inaccurate then it must be pretty accurate.

But tell me this: Why haven't you or they been more forthcoming with the real info about Islam that I post?

Why aren't MUSLIMS posting this info?

I think the answer speaks for itself.

You and they are quite content to allow us to go quietly to our fate at the hands of your fellow Muslims.

Shame on you.

That's no way for a guest in this country to treat his hosts.

Tazmanian Devil said:

I will guess you are a Muslim. This post is written in that context.

What I believe in is being a conduit for information which will give American non Muslims, i.e. Kafirs, the information you have very nicely kept hidden from us about Islam.

This is information we have a right and a need to know in order to protect ourselves from the campaign of Jihad directed against ALL non Muslims, starting 1400 years ago, by The Prophet.

And you seem to feel put upon because we would protect ourselves from you?

That is unreasonable to expect.

In the early 20th Century there was a woman named Mary Mallon, who earned the derogatory nickname, "Typhoid Mary."



The Story of Typhoid Mary

The ONLY thing one can say in her defense is that she really did not believe or understand how she, a healthy woman, could possibly have infected others.

Neither you, nor any other American Muslims, can claim you do not know the goals of Islam is to conquer the World for Allah.

You can not claim to be innocent as you cry, 'woe is me I am a persecuted innocent Muslim.'


You know what the Koran says about kafirs. You know what the plan of conquest entails, generally. You know that we have been and to a great extent, still are completely blind to what you know is planned and currently being carried out to bring Islam's goals to fruition.

And yet you say nothing to warn us.

You contine to play the innocent little victim of racism and bigoty.

Well, here is the bottom line.

You can't be trusted.

None of you.

Oh, some here and there may be trustworthy, but it is IN SPITE OF what the Prophet instructs.

So, as you deceive us and keep us in the dark as you practice Jihad (YES JIHAD) on these very pages, you have duped enough of us Kafirs to take pity on you while you sit back and see just how gullible we will remain.

And all I am doing is making the Prophet's words, deeds and instructions known to my fellow Kafirs so as to open our eyes to the war being waged on us.

Islam is waging war while we are waging nice.

Jihadists are playing to win while we are playing to tie.

Well, I think it is time we wake up to the truth.

You wouldn't blame us for trying to prevent being conquered would you?

Doesn't the Prophet say something about that?

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Wow. As expected your post met my lowest expectations from you.

Odd thing is I am a Christian.
You again demonstrated how your deductive reasoning is wrong again.
Yet you claim to have researched and educated yourself on Islam.
Another one down the toilet for you.
Nothing exceptional about you or your ill informed hatred.
You are a run of the mill type who has a one trick pony mantra based upon hate.

JANFU said:

Wow. As expected your post met my lowest expectations from you.

Odd thing is I am a Christian.
You again demonstrated how your deductive reasoning is wrong again.
Yet you claim to have researched and educated yourself on Islam.
Another one down the toilet for you.
Nothing exceptional about you or your ill informed hatred.
You are a run of the mill type who has a one trick pony mantra based upon hate.

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I forget if I'm required to make some textual commentary. If so, I hope this suffices.

Anything more would border on the unkind.

Tazmanian Devil said:

We are the ones who don't understand it and that is to our detriment.

Know your enemy is what Sun Tzu and von Clausewitz taught.

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I get what you're saying per your posts #230 and 231, respectively. It's on par with what the war fighting philosophy and tactics executed by LtGen Hal Moore from the early phase of the U.S. involvement in the Korean War. (For those who don't know, see the movie "We Were Soldiers".) He took the same philosophy as both Sun Tzu and Von Clausewitz into that war and won...that was until our more senior military and political leaders pulled him out.

You can also take Gen. Colin Powell's words to heart when he said, "If you break it, you bought it!" He wasn't just referring to the Iraqi government or its military defense apparatus. He was talking about the entire country as a whole. I'm sure deep down in places GW Bush and even Dick Chaney (aka, Tricky Dick II) don't want people to know about they harbor some level of regret for stirring up this hornets nest. That said, we have the benefit of hindsight to guide us today. From that premise, I can agree with you. If we knew then what we know now about the relentlessness of Middle Easterner fighters who either believe fully in their religious cause OR are merely conscripts who would rather take their chances and die in battle as opposed to dying at the hands of someone whom they believe is more ruthless than any American or European fighter, then no I don't think we would have gone to war in Iraq or even pulled our troops from Iraq after the war was presumably over. BUT...you have to realize that ISIL/ISIS only came about because its leadership took advantage of a power vacuum at the lower levels of local government of which the newly formed Iraqi government didn't see coming OR was ill-prepared to deal with. And thus, when ISIL/ISIS came to these small towns and villages and there was no backup/no coalition forces behind them to aid them in fighting back...well, to echo a now popular SCI-Fi phrase, "RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. WE WILL ADD YOUR BIOLOGICAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN".

The question now before us is "Do we go back and this time be ALL IN?" What is it that we have to gain from being so deeply involved that goes beyond 'American Pride'?" That's the question I believe most Americans and even President Obama is wrestling with. Are we now responsible for bringing stability to the region? And what exactly does that mean? What would a 'stable' Iraq even look like?

Tazmanian Devil said:

I forget if I'm required to make some textual commentary. If so, I hope this suffices.

Anything more would border on the unkind.

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You feel free to say what you wish.
Clearly you are a low end follower of ERWF, and cannot keep up with the rhetoric or facts, or even a reasonable conclusion.

Objective Voice said:

I get what you're saying per your posts #230 and 231, respectively. It's on par with what the war fighting philosophy and tactics executed by LtGen Hal Moore from the early phase of the U.S. involvement in the Korean War. (For those who don't know, see the movie "We Were Soldiers".) He took the same philosophy as both Sun Tzu and Von Clausewitz into that war and won...that was until our more senior military and political leaders pulled him out.

You can also take Gen. Colin Powell's words to heart when he said, "If you break it, you bought it!" He wasn't just referring to the Iraqi government or its military defense apparatus. He was talking about the entire country as a whole. I'm sure deep down in places GW Bush and even Dick Chaney (aka, Tricky Dick II) don't want people to know about they harbor some level of regret for stirring up this hornets nest. That said, we have the benefit of hindsight to guide us today. From that premise, I can agree with you. If we knew then what we know now about the relentlessness of Middle Easterner fighters who either believe fully in their religious cause OR are merely conscripts who would rather take their chances and die in battle as opposed to dying at the hands of someone whom they believe is more ruthless than any American or European fighter, then no I don't think we would have gone to war in Iraq or even pulled our troops from Iraq after the war was presumably over. BUT...you have to realize that ISIL/ISIS only came about because its leadership took advantage of a power vacuum at the lower levels of local government of which the newly formed Iraqi government didn't see coming OR was ill-prepared to deal with. And thus, when ISIL/ISIS came to these small towns and villages and there was no backup/no coalition forces behind them to aid them in fighting back...well, to echo a now popular SCI-Fi phrase, "RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. WE WILL ADD YOUR BIOLOGICAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN".

The question now before us is "Do we go back and this time be ALL IN?" What is it that we have to gain from being so deeply involved that goes beyond 'American Pride'?" That's the question I believe most Americans and even President Obama is wrestling with. Are we now responsible for bringing stability to the region? And what exactly does that mean? What would a 'stable' Iraq even look like?

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Excellent questions.

I don't know.

One alternative would be to abandon the area completely as much as we can afford to, (oil interests in mind).

Another way might be to get bogged down in a good guy vs bad guy situation in a virtual recreation of the Israeli-Palestinian impasse with no end in sight.

And we know that even when Ataturk secularized Turkey for almost 100 years the fundamentalists have come back to take over once they had the slightest opportunity to do so.

As I sit here typing and thinking, I am beginning to wonder if we might be in for a period of consolidation into armed and restricted camps/nations.

Ironically, that is the way Islam has always seen the world, IINM. As the House of Islam and the House of War. Anything that isn't one is the other.

And so we might have to look at those nations which are already Muslim as gone and not salvageable.

And those nations which are still non Muslims but undergoing Islamization, those should be given the highest priority and defended like hell lest they be overwhelmed.

The Cold War would be like a walk in the park compared to what MIGHT have to be done.

And you know what?

I wouldn't be surprised if this post gets seen by decision makers in the Muslim Brotherhood before it is seen by decision makers in Washington; the Pentagon, the State Dept. or the WH.

JANFU said:

You feel free to say what you wish.
Clearly you are a low end follower of ERWF, and cannot keep up with the rhetoric or facts, or even a reasonable conclusion.

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Cardinal said one of his posts, 'no grunting.'

I say, 'no barking.'

ERWF!

Tazmanian Devil said:

Cardinal said one of his posts, 'no grunting.'

I say, 'no barking.'

ERWF!

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No barking here. You are like a whiny kid on a one way topic of Hate Muslims.

Tazmanian Devil said:

I wouldn't be surprised if this post gets seen by decision makers in the Muslim Brotherhood before it is seen by decision makers in Washington; the Pentagon, the State Dept. or the WH.

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I bet it doesn't get seen by any of them.

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Tazmanian Devil said:

I wouldn't be surprised if this post gets seen by decision makers in the Muslim Brotherhood before it is seen by decision makers in Washington; the Pentagon, the State Dept. or the WH.

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Nope. I doubt it, you place a high value on basic run of the mill hatred. Hard questions you have no answer to, nor have the time to research the answers on those fav hate sites you haunt.

Why when I asked questions and disagreed with you, your fallback position was to label me Muslim. How can one such as yourself be so simple to not have the standard fall back lines of hatred bookmarked for situations such as the questions I asked?
Clearly you are at the bottom rung of preaching hatred, a basic Plebe hoping to share the hatred, to convince others to join in the hatred. But being the simple person you are lost for answers to simple questions.

The world has seen how the uneducated, those that are filled with hate have committed atrocity after atrocity.
Recent ones would be the Armenian genocide, the Shoah (Holocaust?
The Former Yugoslavia, Rwanda.

Tazmanian Devil said:

Excellent questions.

I don't know.

One alternative would be to abandon the area completely as much as we can afford to, (oil interests in mind).

Another way might be to get bogged down in a good guy vs bad guy situation in a virtual recreation of the Israeli-Palestinian impasse with no end in sight.

And we know that even when Ataturk secularized Turkey for almost 100 years the fundamentalists have come back to take over once they had the slightest opportunity to do so.

As I sit here typing and thinking, I am beginning to wonder if we might be in for a period of consolidation into armed and restricted camps/nations.

Ironically, that is the way Islam has always seen the world, IINM. As the House of Islam and the House of War. Anything that isn't one is the other.

And so we might have to look at those nations which are already Muslim as gone and not salvageable.

And those nations which are still non Muslims but undergoing Islamization, those should be given the highest priority and defended like hell lest they be overwhelmed.

The Cold War would be like a walk in the park compared to what MIGHT have to be done.

And you know what?

I wouldn't be surprised if this post gets seen by decision makers in the Muslim Brotherhood before it is seen by decision makers in Washington; the Pentagon, the State Dept. or the WH.

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It's why I think Pres. Obama was correct in calling on moderate Muslim nations AND the new Iraqi government to get involved with this particular fight. I think he fully realizes the quandary we're in:

1. Can't go "All-In" and fight a war that essentially has become a culture war not just in Iraq but in parts of the Middle-East.

2. Can't ignore OUR responsibility for opening up Pandora's Box to begin with.

I think the criticism he's received for calling on the Iraq government and Arab nations to take up arms to protect their right to survive AND their nation's sovereignty is grossly misplaced. People may think his slow walk to a U.S. military build up is him tip-toeing that imaginary line, but I think it's the right call considering how ISIL/ISIS's goal IS to destroy any nation (one person at a time if they have to) who disagrees with their quest for power and legitimacy.

Occam's Razor said:

I bet it doesn't get seen by any of them.

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if the decision makers in Washington actually read DP looking for ideas on which to make policy, that would explain a lot of the policy that they have made.

But, seriously, I doubt that they do. They're perfectly capable of creating a real cluster(bleep!) all on their own without reading what we have to say.

Dittohead not! said:

if the decision makers in Washington actually read DP looking for ideas on which to make policy, that would explain a lot of the policy that they have made.

But, seriously, I doubt that they do. They're perfectly capable of creating a real cluster(bleep!) all on their own without reading what we have to say.

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It's not just silly, it's grandiose. "Important people are waiting to hear what I say!!!"

LOL

JANFU said:

No barking here. You are like a whiny kid on a one way topic of Hate Muslims.

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I'm like the gas gauge registering the amount of fuel in your tank.

I'm like the alarm clock waking you up at the appointed time.

I'm like the traffic signal telling you when it isn't safe to proceed.

I'm like the dog in the night alerting you that something needs your attention.

I'm like the weatherman warning of storms ahead.

Why would anyone not be grateful for that kind of service and function being performed on their behalf?

Unless they were part of the storm?

Objective Voice said:

It's why I think Pres. Obama was correct in calling on moderate Muslim nations AND the new Iraqi government to get involved with this particular fight. I think he fully realizes the quandary we're in:

1. Can't go "All-In" and fight a war that essentially has become a culture war not just in Iraq but in parts of the Middle-East.

2. Can't ignore OUR responsibility for opening up Pandora's Box to begin with.

I think the criticism he's received for calling on the Iraq government and Arab nations to take up arms to protect their right to survive AND their nation's sovereignty is grossly misplaced. People may think his slow walk to a U.S. military build up is him tip-toeing that imaginary line, but I think it's the right call considering how ISIL/ISIS's goal IS to destroy any nation (one person at a time if they have to) who disagrees with their quest for power and legitimacy.

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You are one thoughtful poster.

Thank you for giving me something worth thinking about.

JANFU said:

Nope. I doubt it, you place a high value on basic run of the mill hatred. Hard questions you have no answer to, nor have the time to research the answers on those fav hate sites you haunt.

Why when I asked questions and disagreed with you, your fallback position was to label me Muslim. How can one such as yourself be so simple to not have the standard fall back lines of hatred bookmarked for situations such as the questions I asked?
Clearly you are at the bottom rung of preaching hatred, a basic Plebe hoping to share the hatred, to convince others to join in the hatred. But being the simple person you are lost for answers to simple questions.

The world has seen how the uneducated, those that are filled with hate have committed atrocity after atrocity.
Recent ones would be the Armenian genocide, the Shoah (Holocaust?
The Former Yugoslavia, Rwanda.

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Okay.

And what if I am not full of hatred?

What would your conclusion have to be?

And be careful not to make yourself look foolish here.

Tazmanian Devil said:

I'm like the gas gauge registering the amount of fuel in your tank.

I'm like the alarm clock waking you up at the appointed time.

I'm like the traffic signal telling you when it isn't safe to proceed.

I'm like the dog in the night alerting you that something needs your attention.

I'm like the weatherman warning of storms ahead.

Why would anyone not be grateful for that kind of service and function being performed on their behalf?

Unless they were part of the storm?

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I see that I have moved from being labeled a Muslim, a derogatory term by people of your ilk.
Now I am a 5th columnist.
Kerilley you sure are slow like.
You should research those hate site for better comebacks.
Let me help you.
Now off you go and see you in a few centuries.
You have schooling, badly in need of it.

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Tazmanian Devil said:

Okay.

And what if I am not full of hatred?

What would your conclusion have to be?


And be careful not to make yourself look foolish here.

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I am much to old and been thru Hell more than enough times to not give a tinkers damn about appearing foolish.
Your posts are what defined you.