View Poll Results: Who was the best President of the last 50 years?

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  • John F. Kennedy

    13 22.81%
  • Lyndon B. Johnson

    9 15.79%
  • Richard Nixon

    3 5.26%
  • Gerald Ford

    3 5.26%
  • Jimmy Carter

    4 7.02%
  • Ronald Reagan

    26 45.61%
  • George H. W. Bush

    6 10.53%
  • Bill Clinton

    23 40.35%
  • George W. Bush

    2 3.51%
  • Barack Obama

    9 15.79%
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    The best President of the last 50 years

    Please give 5 votes

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    Re: The best President of the last 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by ConsvLiberal View Post
    Please give 5 votes
    I would if you put up a poll.

    This time, don't make it anonymous.

    In the meantime, in order of preference (best first):

    Clinton
    Johnson
    Obama
    Carter
    Bush I
    Reagan
    Ford
    Nixon
    Bush II

    Edit: There you go. You made it anonymous again. Why'd you keep doing that? You want everyone to dismiss it straight away?
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    Re: The best President of the last 50 years

    So that would be among

    Johnson
    Nixon
    Ford
    Carter
    Reagan
    Bush 41
    Clinton
    Bush 43
    Obama

    We're supposed to pick the 5 best out of those 8? Rank them? What are you looking for?
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    Re: The best President of the last 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    So that would be among

    Johnson
    Nixon
    Ford
    Carter
    Reagan
    Bush 41
    Clinton
    Bush 43
    Obama

    We're supposed to pick the 5 best out of those 8? Rank them? What are you looking for?

    In the next poll will be the 9 Presidents with the most votes.

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    Re: The best President of the last 50 years

    George H. W. Bush was a very good President, but I did not think that he is so popular.

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    Re: The best President of the last 50 years

    Fine, I'll say it. Not a one of them gets the prize as "best president."

    Each and every single one of them did one or more of the following. Diminished the concept of the individual and liberty, increased the scope and/or size of government to questionable results, added to or further harmed our confusing and hypocritical foreign policy causing down the road complications and cost, engaged in at least questionable but likely unethical behavior while in office, and/or increased this nation's Total Debt that someone else will eventually have to resolve.

    Sorry ladies in gents, I do not think a one of them should rank even in the top 10 Presidents over this entire nation's history with the only exception being JFK. And he barely makes it, and only because of the company.

    (For the purpose of this thread, JFK is the only vote I entered. And I am questioning if I should have even done that much.)
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    Re: The best President of the last 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Fine, I'll say it. Not a one of them gets the prize as "best president."

    Each and every single one of them did one or more of the following. Diminished the concept of the individual and liberty, increased the scope and/or size of government to questionable results, added to or further harmed our confusing and hypocritical foreign policy causing down the road complications and cost, engaged in at least questionable but likely unethical behavior while in office, and/or increased this nation's Total Debt that someone else will eventually have to resolve.

    Sorry ladies in gents, I do not think a one of them should rank even in the top 10 Presidents over this entire nation's history with the only exception being JFK. And he barely makes it, and only because of the company.

    (For the purpose of this thread, JFK is the only vote I entered. And I am questioning if I should have even done that much.)
    In the same boat, here. I'm simply not going to support the actions of these men, as that denotes acceptance, which would simply insure that we receive more of the same. If we went back another 20 years, perhaps....
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    Re: The best President of the last 50 years

    here's my wall of text analysis. if you're going to go fiery hyperpartisan on me, i'll probably just ignore your post. i like intellectual exercises like this, and i love history. that is my motivation for responding to this thread. i hope that the result will be objective and less political than analytical. here we go.

    JFK : JFK cut the stupidly high top marginal rate, which was at the point in the Laffer curve where cutting taxes actually helps. i like to think that he would have been less hawkish about Vietnam than Johnson, but i'm probably completely wrong. he handled the Cuban missile crisis, as well. i mean, that was like a for real, doomsday crisis. of course, he was also murdered by an insane asshole, which makes all of us look at him differently because it is just so ****ing sad.

    Clinton : he managed not to **** up the 1990s too much. that was the last decade of the era when someone could theoretically graduate high school and be pretty sure that he or she could get a good job somewhere and succeed with dedication and hard work. he ****ed around in Iraq and in Serbia, but he didn't commit the US to a multi-decade war with no end in sight. DOMA was a big failure in hindsight, but it's a different society now. he also found the correct marginal rates, IMO.

    Ronald Reagan : yeah, he engaged in trickle down bull****, but he really believed in it, and the top rate was at 70 percent. that's too high. other plusses : he didn't get us into a multi-decade war with no end in sight. he would also work with the other side of the aisle, and had a great personality. downside : borrow and spend. that set a bad precedent.

    Johnson: civil rights and Great Society. the Vietnam war was just awful, though, and it clouds his legacy.


    now, not on my list, but a president who i'm obviously referring to : George W. Bush. he engaged in trickle down bull**** at a point in the Laffer curve where it wouldn't work. worst of all, he signed us up for all of this war, and set a precedent that the US would be more heavily involved than anyone else every time the Middle East has a conflict, which is 24/7/365. he made a lot of very costly mistakes. even though i consider him to be close to the bottom of the list, a few accomplishments : i will give him credit for Medicare part D, which i support. he also had to lead the country after the horror of 9/11, and that must have been terribly difficult. he was also different than many other Republican politicians on immigration, and his plan was close to what i support. i also don't believe that he ever had nefarious intent. i do believe that he thought what he was doing was the right thing. however, as he said when he was running pre-9/11, we should not be in the business of nation building. since then, we have learned that this does not work in the Middle East. he should have corrected course, but hindsight is 20/20. Obama should have done a much better job explaining this to the American people. full disclosure : i voted for Bush in 2000. i stopped supporting him after the patriot act.

    anyway, that's my take on it.

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    Re: The best President of the last 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by ConsvLiberal View Post
    Please give 5 votes
    John F is outside the 50 years.
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    Re: The best President of the last 50 years

    They are get an 'f' as far as I am concerned.
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