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Thread: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Of course. Why wouldn't it be?
    In what respect is the operation a public good? Why would anyone want governments involved in the production of anything not a public good? That could be motivated only by selfishness or stupidity.

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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Gender dysphoria.

    I voted yes.

    Where there is a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria and gender reassignment surgery is indicated as necessary treatment then the surgery should be covered by insurance or subsidized by the government in the same way that any other medically necessary treatment would be covered.
    There is a name for everything. That does not mean that it justifies an operation being paid for by third parties.if someone is discontented they should work it out themselves.
    But you can make a donation yourself, if you like.

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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Of course. To vote no would be utterly unsympathetic and non-humane, and non-conducive to a species which survives off of empathy-driven group dynamics.

    Anyone who votes no with the justification of "Don't treat a mental condition with physical alteration..." is quite frankly being disingenuous, and quite bluntly are flat out liars. They are well aware of the fact that there is no known treatment for the mind in this regard, and they also likely know that the evidence points toward the fact that it never will be because the condition likely hormonally develops in the womb.

    We have tried treating this mentally for years; there's a reason it's now considered unethical to attempt. You're asserting that these people should not be happy because we don't have the exact solution (and likely never will) that your non-affected being doesn't even have to deal with. The only logical conclusion about people who hold this stance is that they have an unreasonably dogmatic line of reasoning - likely an attempt to preserve fragile notions of their religiosity, masculinity, and/or sexuality.

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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Self explanatory. Do you think the government should pay, or help pay, or subsidize insurance companies, or in any other way funnel money toward assisting people to undergo gender reassignment surgeries?

    If so, to what extent?
    Not only "NO!" but "Hell no!"
    Who chimes "No Absolutes!" chimes absolutely.

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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by zom View Post
    Of course. To vote no would be utterly unsympathetic and non-humane, and non-conducive to a species which survives off of empathy-driven group dynamics.
    I feel for you.
    Who chimes "No Absolutes!" chimes absolutely.

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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Self explanatory. Do you think the government should pay, or help pay, or subsidize insurance companies, or in any other way funnel money toward assisting people to undergo gender reassignment surgeries?

    If so, to what extent?
    Elective surgery. Should the government pay for boob jobs?
    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." Attributed to Alexander Tytler

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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    No facial reconstruction surgery for car crash victims, either? That's elective cosmetic surgery.
    I didn't say no one should have cosmetic surgery - I said taxpayers should never be compelled to pay for it.

    But of course, I wouldn't really care if we were talking about an emergency appendectomy, I would still say the taxpayer shouldn't be on the hook for that bill.

    Taxpayers should not pay for any healthcare services for the public at large (though obviously taxes pay for the wages and benefits of government employees).

    But let us not pretend that cosmetic surgery is not in a whole other ballpark; it's frivolous.

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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    For any of you who think this a grand idea - where in the Constitution is the government authorized to do such a thing??

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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Elective surgery. Should the government pay for boob jobs?
    I've noticed a continuing trend of staunch disingenuity from the opposing side, and it's really quite telling for anyone on the sidelines and the opposing side. To be frank I'm getting a strong dose of secondhand embarrassment from it.

    Comparing a surgery which addresses a long term, widespread, largely studied form of intense, life-threatening distress that is only alleviated via these procedures with a god damn boob job. How plainly embarrassing, honestly. I'd hate to feel obligated to conjure up "arguments" to adhere to a political ideology which favors such insanity.

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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    For any of you who think this a grand idea - where in the Constitution is the government authorized to do such a thing??
    Is the Constitution more of a source of objective morality or is it more of a set of general guidelines for which to follow and importantly amend as society progresses?

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