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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    You have to be fairly committed to defrauding the government to willingly undergo sexual reassignment surgery just to "stick it to the man."
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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    That's just obvious common sense.

    You don't treat lung cancer by removing a healthy pancreas.
    It's neither obvious nor common sense unless you overly simplify the workings of the human body. Despite what many believe the brain and body are inseparable and cannot be dealt with in isolation of each other. I have no problem at all in believing that it's possible to treat a psychological condition by dealing with the body. I'd further argue that given how much we know about the body and how little we know about the brain it would be easier to deal a person who's brain is one gender while their body is the other by altering their body as opposed to screwing with their head.
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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    No. I'm a proponent of single-payer healthcare for the most part, but I don't think that the public should have to pay for voluntary cosmetic surgery, which is what gender reassignment is.

    As far as it being a treatment for gender dysphoria, the available evidence points to people who have the surgery being just as unhappy as those who don't, so it doesn't seem to be much of a cure. If it actually worked, I might feel differently about the public paying for it.
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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    As I've pointed out it seems that it's a recognized illness. What more research needs to be done?
    Out of curiosity, if someone has Body Integrity Identity Syndrome do you think the "cure" should be amputating their limb?
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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    As I've pointed out it seems that it's a recognized illness. What more research needs to be done?
    How about research as to whether the proposed course of treatment is actually effective or not. That seems to be pretty important.

    And in this case, sexual reassignment surgery doesn't seem to be a very effective treatment for gender dysphoria.

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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Out of curiosity, if someone has Body Integrity Identity Syndrome do you think the "cure" should be amputating their limb?
    Once again I'm not a doctor. I'll leave it to the those who are and who have training to make that determination. My point has been and remains that if it's classified by the medical community as a legitimate medical condition it should be subject to the same rules and restrictions, specifically how correcting it is paid for, as other medical conditions.

    Or in other words I'm not going to treat it differently because you find it icky.
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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Voted No.

    If a persons insurance wants to cover such, then fine.

    imo, their are higher priorities for tax dollar uses.

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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    How about research as to whether the proposed course of treatment is actually effective or not. That seems to be pretty important.

    And in this case, sexual reassignment surgery doesn't seem to be a very effective treatment for gender dysphoria.

    Sex changes are not effective, say researchers | Society | The Guardian
    Efficacy is certainly a legitimate question. I wouldn't draw the conclusion that the operation is ineffective given what's in the article. It seems the jury is still out.
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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    It's neither obvious nor common sense unless you overly simplify the workings of the human body. Despite what many believe the brain and body are inseparable and cannot be dealt with in isolation of each other. I have no problem at all in believing that it's possible to treat a psychological condition by dealing with the body. I'd further argue that given how much we know about the body and how little we know about the brain it would be easier to deal a person who's brain is one gender while their body is the other by altering their body as opposed to screwing with their head.
    If someone has a form of body dysphoria that causes him to think he should; not have a left arm, would you consider it an appropriate treatment to amputate his left arm?
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    Re: Should tax dollars be used for gender reassignment surgery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    If someone has a form of body dysphoria that causes him to think he should; not have a left arm, would you consider it an appropriate treatment to amputate his left arm?
    Already answered. I'm not qualified to make that determination and would leave it to the experts in the field to decide if that was a reasonable course of action.
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