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    Does the crowded GOP potus candidates field risk there being an unpopular nominee?

    When just 2 people are running, democracy is a pretty good way of selecting government of the people. However, when you have going on 30 candidates, the winner simply needs more votes than anyone else who actually won by having most people vote AGAINST them. In the case of the GOP presidential primary, potentially a landslide number of voters can vote against the candidate who wins. Does this concern you and if so, do you have a better idea that could get the most favored candidate selected?
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    Re: Does the crowded GOP potus candidates field risk there being an unpopular nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    When just 2 people are running, democracy is a pretty good way of selecting government of the people. However, when you have going on 30 candidates, the winner simply needs more votes than anyone else who actually won by having most people vote AGAINST them. In the case of the GOP presidential primary, potentially a landslide number of voters can vote against the candidate who wins. Does this concern you and if so, do you have a better idea that could get the most favored candidate selected?
    It does concern me. There is a possibility that Jeb wins with a small plurality, as conservatives split their votes among Walker, Rubio, and (for our more libertarian types) Paul.
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    Re: Does the crowded GOP potus candidates field risk there being an unpopular nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    It does concern me. There is a possibility that Jeb wins with a small plurality, as conservatives split their votes among Walker, Rubio, and (for our more libertarian types) Paul.
    Yep, no matter who wins the nomination, there will be many who will feel disenfranchised.

    I'm sticking with the Texas candidates just to piss off the Leftists.
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    Re: Does the crowded GOP potus candidates field risk there being an unpopular nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    It does concern me. There is a possibility that Jeb wins with a small plurality, as conservatives split their votes among Walker, Rubio, and (for our more libertarian types) Paul.
    Some states have run-off elections if no one gets a clear majority. In your opinion, does this solve the issue, and should it be implemented in all elections?

    I think it helps, though may not be perfect. Then again, there is no perfect solution. We're still limited by the natural frailties of the human species.
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    Re: Does the crowded GOP potus candidates field risk there being an unpopular nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Some states have run-off elections if no one gets a clear majority. In your opinion, does this solve the issue, and should it be implemented in all elections?

    I think it helps, though may not be perfect. Then again, there is no perfect solution. We're still limited by the natural frailties of the human species.
    I think that it should be a state decision - other states prefer to split their representatives, and I think that is a legitimate response as well.
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    Re: Does the crowded GOP potus candidates field risk there being an unpopular nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    When just 2 people are running, democracy is a pretty good way of selecting government of the people. However, when you have going on 30 candidates, the winner simply needs more votes than anyone else who actually won by having most people vote AGAINST them. In the case of the GOP presidential primary, potentially a landslide number of voters can vote against the candidate who wins. Does this concern you and if so, do you have a better idea that could get the most favored candidate selected?
    I'm in NH and our primary field is always the most crowded it can be (obviously). I don't think it's a problem. A lot will drop out after NH and the Iowa caucuses.
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    Re: Does the crowded GOP potus candidates field risk there being an unpopular nominee

    These are party elections, so each party can determine the method they want to use. As I understand it, each convention requires a majority of delegates to become that party's nominee. If that doesn't happen on the first ballot, then they keep going until there is one. Most delegates determined through the primary only have an "obligation" to vote for their candidate on the first ballot.

    What is wrong with this process?

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    Re: Does the crowded GOP potus candidates field risk there being an unpopular nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    When just 2 people are running, democracy is a pretty good way of selecting government of the people. However, when you have going on 30 candidates, the winner simply needs more votes than anyone else who actually won by having most people vote AGAINST them. In the case of the GOP presidential primary, potentially a landslide number of voters can vote against the candidate who wins. Does this concern you and if so, do you have a better idea that could get the most favored candidate selected?
    I dont think it wiil hurt the candidate much in the GOP. The right are going to vote for their candidate. They almost certainly aren't voting Hillary or 3rd party for fear of Hillary getting in. It may or may not hurt them with the independents in the country. The right republican nomination would appeal to the undecided crowd.
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    Re: Does the crowded GOP potus candidates field risk there being an unpopular nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    When just 2 people are running, democracy is a pretty good way of selecting government of the people. However, when you have going on 30 candidates, the winner simply needs more votes than anyone else who actually won by having most people vote AGAINST them. In the case of the GOP presidential primary, potentially a landslide number of voters can vote against the candidate who wins. Does this concern you and if so, do you have a better idea that could get the most favored candidate selected?
    In my view, the more the merrier. As you note in your poll, the cream rises to the top. Who can doubt that Romney performed best in the last GOP primary process and deserved to win the nomination. Likewise, Obama was the far superior candidate in the 2008 primaries for the Democrats, and that was a large field.

    Multiple candidates from various backgrounds and policy positions also firms up the ultimate winning candidate for the type of onslaught he or she will get in the general election. The primaries can damage candidates, but only if they can't develop a response for discovered weaknesses.

    And, finally, a large field says to me that a party is vibrant with a lot of talent and a lot of leadership that wants a say in the direction of the party and the country - that's good. The alternative is a Hillary type coronation where the party is resigned to the nominee and not the slightest bit enthused about it.
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