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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I'm not going to argue the morality of anyone's actions. Moral or not, I expect that others will do whatever is best for them, without regard to what is right or fair.

    The citys'administrators are going to look after their own interests; not Kreton's. Looking out for Kreton is Kreton's job, not theirs. If being unfair to Kreton makes them look good to some voter and avoids a lawsuit, then being unfair to Kreton is what they're going to do.
    You are right, and honestly i dont blame them for that.
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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    without question. the park & rec staff was covering its ass. at the coach's expense
    but what was the actual wrongdoing which required an apology. based on the coach's posts he still doesn't know what it was he had done for which he was required to apologize
    Sometimes an apology, even when one shouldn't be required, is the fastest way to de-escalate a bad situation. I use that tactic pretty regularly in dealing with IRS and Dept. of Revenue agents who have their heads up their ass but still hold the ability to make my life more difficult.
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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Sometimes and apology, even when one shouldn't be required, is the fastest way to de-escalate a bad situation. I use that tactic pretty regularly in dealing with IRS and Dept. of Revenue agents who have their heads up their ass but still hold the ability to make my life more difficult.
    Exactly, right or wrong doesn't even enter the picture. It's all about smoothing things over and going on.

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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I coach for the city here where i live. Varying sports for ages 4-13 depending on where they need help coaching. For baseball this year one of my teams is a 4-5 year old t ball team. We had our first practice last night and two women came with a little girl. I introduced myself and said hi and they immediately went on a little speech about how they are together, they are lesbians, they are raising this girl together, nothing wrong with that. Then go into whats going to happen if I discriminate against their daughter because of their sexuality, threatening lawsuits and explaining that there are laws ect. I told them I was there to teach their daughter softball, and their sexual orientation was not a factor at all and moved along. As I am meeting other parents a few of them commented that this lady had approached them and gave them a similar speech out of nowhere. After all the kids were there I gathered the kids together and started off having the kids introduce themselves to their teammates. No additional information really, just kid would say my name is Earl. And everyone would say Hi Earl to start to learn teammates names. When the little girl told everyone her name, again the lady popped into action giving her speech to everyone out there. I stopped her after about a minute and spoke to her privately, or as privately as I could on a baseball field, and let her know that it is not appropriate to interrupt a team activity like that, and again told her noone is going to be discriminating against her daughter. So today I get a call from the city letting me know she filed a complaint and is taking her child off of my team because I told her she had to hide her sexuality at our practices so it wouldn't bother other parents. I dont recall my exact wording but it was not mean, the word hiding or even sexuality didnt come out of my mouth. I only asked her not to interrupt our practices and tried to assure he that I don't care what her sexual preference is, I am there to teach baseball and the other parents are only there to watch.

    Was I wrong to ask her to stop what she was doing?
    Even if you had told them that a baseball field filled with t-ballers was no place to discuss sexuality, you would be right. The only pertinent information was that they both have guardianship over that child. It is certainly sick to use a child as a pawn in their crusade to persecute others who may or may not share their opinion on their private affairs.
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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    This is a PC issue so there is no "right" way to handle it. Basically, the only course of action that might prevent you from getting fired and probably thrown in jail is to extoll the virtues of homosexuality in a 3000 word essay in the local paper and propose erecting a monument to lesbians in center field.
    Except they may be offended by the erection...
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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    We can't say gay now?

    What are we supposed to say in its place?
    The nomenclature keeps changing. When I was younger gay women were either 'gay' or 'lesbian'. It didn't matter which one, and nobody cared which one. Now they're just 'lesbian', and anything else is a social faux pas.

    Gay men, however, are still 'gay'.
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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Except they may be offended by the erection...
    My understanding is that lesbians are generally not put off by erections. They simply don't like them on men.

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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    If you want to be a HS coach, now is a good time as any to grow a really, really thick skin.
    Ew, I couldn't agree more. Those guys are blamed for everything. And chewed out in front of fans, spectators, players, etc.
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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    You are right, and honestly i dont blame them for that.
    Good for you!!

    I have a saying I've used often at work - "You can be right, or you can be smart"

    You'd be 100% justified in refusing to apologize or work with that woman as Asst Coach. But that wouldn't be smart.

    Smart means seeing things for what they are and in this case, the whole situation is nothing more than a problem from the admins point of view. You can make the problem go away, in which case you're the hero.

    Otherwise, you're a problem.
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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Ew, I couldn't agree more. Those guys are blamed for everything. And chewed out in front of fans, spectators, players, etc.
    Not even high school, which I do coach (Girls Varsity Soccer 3-1 this season) but I got chewed out by some bitch mom at my daughters (9 year-olds) soccer game last week for not calling 100% proper throw ins from my team. Kid lifets foot type of thing. I called it back and later kept pointing out how she was not bitching about things that their team kept violating but that I was not calling ouls on and she said nothing. Half the kids can barely kick or trap the ball and hop when they throw in for freaking sake. The other coach reffed the second half and was a Nazi about things, the game slowed down, kids got bored re-throwing in balls over and over and it sucked...

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