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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    You don't have to ask them to come to the meeting...ask a couple if the people your meeting with can call them if they would like. Just so you have that in your back pocket.

    I really don't see much of an issue man....they will investigate and there's nothing there. I'm sure they are use to stuff like this and have to deal with this kind of stuff all the time.
    You are assuming city workers are rational.

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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    To (hopefully) avoid a lawsuit, I'm sure.
    without question. the park & rec staff was covering its ass. at the coach's expense
    but what was the actual wrongdoing which required an apology. based on the coach's posts he still doesn't know what it was he had done for which he was required to apologize
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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    without question. the park & rec staff was covering its ass. at the coach's expense
    but what was the actual wrongdoing which required an apology. based on the coach's posts he still doesn't know what it was he had done for which he was required to apologize
    Completely agree. There was nothing done that necessitated an apology.
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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    its not going to go that far. at least not at this point. she seems happy that i apologized and her child back on the team, and being an assistant coach to help control that. She is convincing. I want to believe she was trying to play an agenda to get some free sports, but she honestly seemed offended when we were all meeting. I dont know what to think. I probalby could have handled it better, certainly could have been better in the meeting, but i am hoping we can all focus on t ball. Sorrys have been said.
    Meh, just let bygones be bygones. Chalk it up to a misunderstanding on both of your parts. Go out of your way to be friendly to her and her partner.

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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I have no reason to make anything up, i dont watch fox news and am not really partisan and certainly don't have any anti homosexual agenda. Believe what you'd like though. I started this because i was curious if people thought i was out of line, since i am at times oblivious to some things and have been inadvertantly un pc in the past.

    And the only thing I said that may have been inappropriate, emphasis on may have been, was saying "gay". But I didnt say or mean it as derogatory, but that part I can somewhat understand her misinterpreting. That I could have worded better and knew it right after it was said. Nothing else I know of I said was I grossly unaware. I am presenting on here my side of what happened, probably not going to invite her in, but i listed what she said were how I made her react.
    We can't say gay now?

    What are we supposed to say in its place?

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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    the thought crossed my mind, but i want to be a high school coach or maybe further. to do that i need a solid coaching resume. If i quit over this, i could not use the city as a reference of experience. Potential actual coaching job may call for a reference and there is no way that can be worded to sound good for me. I left after a problem with a homosexual couple. No matter how that is worded, I come out looking like a bigot.
    If you want to be a HS coach, now is a good time as any to grow a really, really thick skin.

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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I coach for the city here where i live. Varying sports for ages 4-13 depending on where they need help coaching. For baseball this year one of my teams is a 4-5 year old t ball team. We had our first practice last night and two women came with a little girl. I introduced myself and said hi and they immediately went on a little speech about how they are together, they are lesbians, they are raising this girl together, nothing wrong with that. Then go into whats going to happen if I discriminate against their daughter because of their sexuality, threatening lawsuits and explaining that there are laws ect. I told them I was there to teach their daughter softball, and their sexual orientation was not a factor at all and moved along. As I am meeting other parents a few of them commented that this lady had approached them and gave them a similar speech out of nowhere. After all the kids were there I gathered the kids together and started off having the kids introduce themselves to their teammates. No additional information really, just kid would say my name is Earl. And everyone would say Hi Earl to start to learn teammates names. When the little girl told everyone her name, again the lady popped into action giving her speech to everyone out there. I stopped her after about a minute and spoke to her privately, or as privately as I could on a baseball field, and let her know that it is not appropriate to interrupt a team activity like that, and again told her noone is going to be discriminating against her daughter. So today I get a call from the city letting me know she filed a complaint and is taking her child off of my team because I told her she had to hide her sexuality at our practices so it wouldn't bother other parents. I dont recall my exact wording but it was not mean, the word hiding or even sexuality didnt come out of my mouth. I only asked her not to interrupt our practices and tried to assure he that I don't care what her sexual preference is, I am there to teach baseball and the other parents are only there to watch.

    Was I wrong to ask her to stop what she was doing?
    You should have waited until after a few practices and told her that her daughter sucked at t-ball and that she needed to find a man to teach her how to throw, catch and hit.

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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    my regard for the city/park & rec staff is almost as low as that held for the lesbian couple, based on the account provided
    he was sandbagged
    the city scheduled a meeting with him without advising that the lesbian couple would be there to confront him
    they made him apologize. for what remains unclear
    they rewarded the couple with free participation fees for multiple sports, giving the distinct appearance that something was owed to the couple
    and then, when the woman wanted to become the coach of the team, they made her the assistant to the fellow she reported for wrongdoing when there was no wrongdoing

    after three years, the coach has earned his letter of good standing. he should stand there while they wrote and signed it and not let the door hit his ass on the way out

    fortunately, for his daughter, and the other kids he coaches, he is more level than i and will continue to put up with such bull****
    I'm not going to argue the morality of anyone's actions. Moral or not, I expect that others will do whatever is best for them, without regard to what is right or fair.

    The citys'administrators are going to look after their own interests; not Kreton's. Looking out for Kreton is Kreton's job, not theirs. If being unfair to Kreton makes them look good to some voter and avoids a lawsuit, then being unfair to Kreton is what they're going to do.
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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    From your version...no. Parents, especially in this day and age, have gotten WAY more entitled. They think their child is special. And in this case...this parent seems to be looking to make your life miserable. Or a pay day? Just document everything. Talk to other parents and make sure that the truth is that she brought the topic up alone AND interrupted practice.

    It isn't her show. She doesn't call the shots. She doesn't get to interrupt other people's activities with her sexuality. She isn't protected from being called and treated like an asshole when she acts like an asshole. SHE made the issue. Not you.

    You didn't tell her to hide her sexuality. You told her that her sexuality isn't important. It isn't. She shouldn't be interrupting the kids activities with things not involved with what they are doing...like her sexuality.
    I thought it was understood that the coach is god for the team and the parents keep their mouths shut.

    How can he coach if he has no authority over the kids, and in this case it looks like he won't have any with her standing next to him.

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    Re: Was I wrong?

    Who voted "yes"? Seriously? This lady obviously has a chip on her shoulder and rather than deal with her own obvious issues, she has to go around threatening to sue people for behavior they have to display, and it's wrong for him to politely tell her to shut her trap? He handled it a lot more politely than I would have. I couldn't give a flying **** who - or what - you're ****ing, so keep your lame ass threats to yourself and your pie (not that kind, sicko ) hole shut and let me coach the team.
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