You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo
Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
Mom had this hanging on the wall when i was a kid. it's one of my favorites, and it is appropriate here.
as for the OP, yes, animals should have rights. assholes who torture or starve their animals should go to jail.A man of kindness, to his beast is kind.
But, brutal actions, show a brutal mind:
Remember, He who made thee, made the brute,
Who gave thee speech and reason, formed him mute;
He can't complain, but God's omniscient eye
Beholds thy cruelty - He hears his cry!
He was designed thy servant; not thy drudge,
But know - That his Creator is thy judge.
on other issues, i'm much more conflicted. i might lose my job soon, and an opportunity to move seamlessly into a job where i would be working directly with mice opened up. part of my job would have been to put them in CO2 chambers to kill them. absolutely no ****ing way. i just can't. i understand that animal research is a vital tool for science, but i can't do it.
hunting? maybe, if my family needed it. meat eating? i've been doing less of it, but i do still eat meat.
these things make me something of a hypocrite. however, yeah, toss the ****ers who starve their horses or torture animals for fun into the damned klink. and Japanese "research" whalers? i would sink those ****ers with torpedoes.
Animals are property. They have no rights.
I don't care how they treated the cow before I ate it, I care about the quality and price of the meat.
If you care about such things, you along with others provide a market force for a more expensive but friendlier slaughterhouse - whatever that may mean, given the end result.
It's not a concern for law, though - as previously mentioned, animals have no rights.
Your thinking sounds very reminiscent of the argument used to justify human slavery.
But one of the reasons I believe in hell is because there has to be a place for those who are cruel to animals.
"They aren't human" So? You treat your pets well and they're not human.
"They aren't conscious of what's going on for there to be a loss in their death." Well, same goes for human infants and again, pets. May as well kill them and sell their carcass at meijer's too i guess, or on a trophy display.
"I need to eat them to survive and other species kill each other for the same purpose." No junk food or vegetables for you then
Species are going extinct at 100-1000x the normal rate, and it's entirely due to humans.
Animals aren't capable of understanding or exercising rights, so they shouldn't have them. There should be (and are in most places) laws in place to protect animals. In some cases these laws need to be better enforced. But animals don't need, or want, rights.
If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.
If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.