View Poll Results: Is slavery always wrong all of the time?

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  • Forced labor is appropriate under some circumstances.

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  • I can't decide. I'm a human tower of jello. Lead me around like the sheep i am.

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Thread: Is Slavery Always Wrong All of the Time?

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    Re: Is Slavery Always Wrong All of the Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Indentured servitude is immoral because it takes away peoples fundamental rights... It is impossible to sign your fundamental rights away, even if you want to...

    you can't legitimately forfeit those rights, because it would always be a crime for others to violate them, no matter what contract you sign.
    If you're trying to tell me indentured servitude is illegal, I agree. My point wasn't that it is legal, it was that it ought to be legal.

    Nothing wrong with working for room and board.

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    Re: Is Slavery Always Wrong All of the Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If you're trying to tell me indentured servitude is illegal, I agree. My point wasn't that it is legal, it was that it ought to be legal.

    Nothing wrong with working for room and board.
    If you believe in ones inalienable rights... it should never be legal...or rather, impossible to be legal

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    Re: Is Slavery Always Wrong All of the Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    If you believe in ones inalienable rights... it should never be legal...or rather, impossible to be legal
    If you believe in inalienable rights, it should be impossible to go to prison.

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    Re: Is Slavery Always Wrong All of the Time?

    Indentured servitude is an agreement of two parties, there is nothing forced about it.

    involuntary servitude is forced.
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    Re: Is Slavery Always Wrong All of the Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If you believe in inalienable rights, it should be impossible to go to prison.
    Why is that? it protects against the cruel and unusual...but when you are an individual who violates other peoples rights.... you forfeit your own, at least in the society you belong in....or maybe you just forfeit being in the society all together. I'd be cool with exporting violent criminals to a uninhabited island for them to live in a free for all.... as long as said island as no way of them returning or going elsewhere.

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    Re: Is Slavery Always Wrong All of the Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Why is that? it protects against the cruel and unusual...but when you are an individual who violates other peoples rights.... you forfeit your own, at least in the society you belong in....or maybe you just forfeit being in the society all together. I'd be cool with exporting violent criminals to a uninhabited island for them to live in a free for all.... as long as said island as no way of them returning or going elsewhere.
    Send them to Australia.

    I'm just saying if rights are INALIENABLE, then nothing you say or do should allow or compel you to forfeit those rights.

    I personally think the term "inalienable rights" is a euphemism and can't be taken literally.

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    Re: Is Slavery Always Wrong All of the Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Penile labor is the same thing as slavery.
    Penile labor? Does not sound fun. Get your junk checked
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    Re: Is Slavery Always Wrong All of the Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Penile labor? Does not sound fun. Get your junk checked
    Yeah I mentioned that too, but nobody caught it then, either.
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    Re: Is Slavery Always Wrong All of the Time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post

    I'll leave it at that for now. What are your thoughts?

    Slavery implies that someone owns you and that you are doing work for that person for free.Community service, chain gangs or requiring welfare mooches to work is not slavery, it is punishment for committing an illegal activity. or to make sure they are earning the money in exchange for certain aid.I do think welfare mooches should have to work.Now when I am saying welfare mooch I am not talking about everyone on welfare. I am talking about the able bodied adult who is not working while collecting welfare, not people who do work while collecting welfare or people who are crippled or not able bodied. Chain gangs and community service generally should be for non-for profit work.Convicted criminals should not be doing jobs that someone would normally get paid to do like construction work,or some other job especially when we have unemployment.
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    Re: Is Slavery Always Wrong All of the Time?

    I voted three. I lied of course but I felt the effort put into formulating that option deserved some credit.

    Slavery implies ownership by human(s) over another or more. The buck stops long before that.

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