Thread: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

Simple question do you care if the Government violates the Constitution?

Originally Posted by OrphanSlug

Bait thread alert!

Not really, just asking a question.

Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat

Whose interpretation of the constitution? Yours? Mine? Some bloggers? What about a blowhard on TV? I don't care if the government violates any laymen's interpretation of the constitution. I do care if the government violates the federal court system's interpretation of the constitution as that is the only one that really matters.

Well, the problem with that though is - the people sitting on our courts have themselves been indoctrinated into the same leftist worldviews that dominate our society. As such, almost everyone, including the people working in our courts and institutions, believe that government is, and should be, a positive force for "good".

Once certain phrases and interpretations of the Constitution cleared the way for the government to do almost anything it wanted, unaccountable to anyone, our fate was sealed. Once "... promote the general welfare" became an empowering clause; and, "... necessary and proper" came to mean Dept's and agencies can make law; and the "...commerce clause" was expanded to give the FedGov almost dictatorial power over all commerce and business in the country; et al...

Our Founding Fathers crafted a negative document that was intended to empower the FedGov with certain enumerated powers, and all other matters and concerns were to fall under the authority of the states and the people themselves. They warned that if the constrictive nature of the document were subverted or overwritten, as it has been today, that liberty will not last long thereafter.

If we don't have the Constitution, i.e. the rule of law, to protect us from the government - then what does protect us from the government?? If the government can simply pass The Patriot Act, and render the 4th Amendment completely null and void - how is any citizen actually safe from such an unconstrained, unaccountable government??

The lesson of government throughout history is - that governments will always, eventually come to terrorize and subjugate its citizens. We're well on to that condition now.

Originally Posted by wist43

Well, the problem with that though is - the people sitting on our courts have themselves been indoctrinated into the same leftist worldviews that dominate our society. As such, almost everyone, including the people working in our courts and institutions, believe that government is, and should be, a positive force for "good".

Once certain phrases and interpretations of the Constitution cleared the way for the government to do almost anything it wanted, unaccountable to anyone, our fate was sealed. Once "... promote the general welfare" became an empowering clause; and, "... necessary and proper" came to mean Dept's and agencies can make law; and the "...commerce clause" was expanded to give the FedGov almost dictatorial power over all commerce and business in the country; et al...

Our Founding Fathers crafted a negative document that was intended to empower the FedGov with certain enumerated powers, and all other matters and concerns were to fall under the authority of the states and the people themselves. They warned that if the constrictive nature of the document were subverted or overwritten, as it has been today, that liberty will not last long thereafter.

If we don't have the Constitution, i.e. the rule of law, to protect us from the government - then what does protect us from the government?? If the government can simply pass The Patriot Act, and render the 4th Amendment completely null and void - how is any citizen actually safe from such an unconstrained, unaccountable government??

The lesson of government throughout history is - that governments will always, eventually come to terrorize and subjugate its citizens. We're well on to that condition now.

I wish i could click on ( like) but it disappeared. If the people will get organized we can still break off in the govs. backsides.