View Poll Results: Do you care?

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  • The government should never violate the Constitution

    47 85.45%
  • I don't care as long as I like the results of the violation

    2 3.64%
  • It should be only violated in exterme emgerancies

    4 7.27%
  • The constitution is outdated and should be thrown away

    2 3.64%
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Thread: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    ...and the 1st with regards to speech and religion and the 9th with regards to the right to privacy.



    And? You laughed at me, told me I was wrong AND? You were wrong. End of story.
    Private parties cannot violate the first or the ninth or any amendment.
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Private parties cannot violate the first or the ninth or any amendment.
    Yes they can
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    No one cares about your stupid hippy logic
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Simple question
    do you care if the Government violates the Constitution?


    When has the government violated the Constitution?

    Fill us in.


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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Yes they can
    How so?
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    How so?
    There is a federal law that specifically addresses deprivation of civil rights, 18 USC 241, basically if you and another person conspire to deprive somebody of their civil rights (like say go beat up some civil rights workers registering people to vote) you can be charged with conspiracy against rights
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    No. People cannot violate the 13th. The 13th directs Congress to pass laws abolishing slavery. People can violate those.
    http://www.nyclu.org/oped/column-app...rk-law-journal

    Wrong.
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    There is a federal law that specifically addresses deprivation of civil rights, 18 USC 241, basically if you and another person conspire to deprive somebody of their civil rights (like say go beat up some civil rights workers registering people to vote) you can be charged with conspiracy against rights
    Federal law =\= constitution
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    In all the cited cases the private parties were deemed to be state actors because of the relationship between the private party and the state.

    So no I'm afraid you are incorrect.
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    There is a federal law that specifically addresses deprivation of civil rights, 18 USC 241, basically if you and another person conspire to deprive somebody of their civil rights (like say go beat up some civil rights workers registering people to vote) you can be charged with conspiracy against rights
    Federal law is not Constitutional law.
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    The point is our government at various levels violates the Constitution already in a multitude of ways. No matter how you answer the question, it is all voided by the point of view on the power of the Constitution as a government limitation device. It is no longer such a document, as such the better question is the Constitution relevant any longer?
    That laws are broken does not discredit the law. Not caring about it does.

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