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  • The government should never violate the Constitution

    47 85.45%
  • I don't care as long as I like the results of the violation

    2 3.64%
  • It should be only violated in exterme emgerancies

    4 7.27%
  • The constitution is outdated and should be thrown away

    2 3.64%
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Thread: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Only those who do not agree with what Constitution clearly and unambiguously says, and do not wish for it to be obeyed, claim that there is any argument about “interpretations” of it.
    Spoken like a true autocrat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    The Constitution does not give this power to the federal courts. In fact, Jefferson warned against this abuse.
    And Madison intended it all along. The constitution does give this power to the courts, by the way. The supreme court has jurisdiction over all cases arising under the constitution, not all cases arising under the constitution except those where the petitioner contends that the law in question violates the constitution. That's not an abuse.
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is violated on a daily basis by people, businesses and the government... and that won't ever change.
    Lol you know that the constitution affects only the government and not businesses or people...
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post



    And Madison intended it all along. The constitution does give this power to the courts, by the way. The supreme court has jurisdiction over all cases arising under the constitution, not all cases arising under the constitution except those where the petitioner contends that the law in question violates the constitution. That's not an abuse.
    James Madison- The States, in their sovereign capacity, are the parties to the constitutional compact; and are thus the final authority on whether the federal government has violated the Constitution. There can be no tribunal above the authority of the States to decide whether the compact made by them has been violated by the federal government.....
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Lol you know that the constitution affects only the government and not businesses or people...
    The US Constitution also includes it's 27 Amendments... but apparently you DIDN'T know that.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The US Constitution also includes it's 27 Amendments... but apparently you DIDN'T know that.
    And?

    What of these amendments?

    I think the thirteenth amendment is maybe the only thing a company or individual can truly break since the amendment reads that slavery shall not exist within the US (and that would mean US private entities cannot engage in it).
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well the constitution has be blatantly violated, and not even the USSC could not say it has not.

    before the 17th amendment to the constitution was ever even created, some states were already directly electing senators from their states by the people...which directly contradicts the constitution.

    texas for example elected its first senator by direct election in 1906, seven years before the 17th.
    One of the biggest mistakes was allowing direct election of Senators.

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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    I think the thirteenth amendment is maybe the only thing a company or individual can truly break since the amendment reads that slavery shall not exist within the US (and that would mean US private entities cannot engage in it).
    ...and the 1st with regards to speech and religion and the 9th with regards to the right to privacy.

    And?

    What of these amendments?
    And? You laughed at me, told me I was wrong AND? You were wrong. End of story.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I think you are missing the point here....these cases don't magically appear.... all of them are based in the interpretations of the plaintiffs.
    ....you know, the interpretations you say don't matter.

    it's absurd to argue their interpretations do not matter... they are at the very root of constitutional cases.
    they very well may end up being wrong... but those interpretations are absolutely imperative to our system.... as the courts do not review laws upon passage, those claims you find to "not matter" represent the entire basis for our federal courts.
    The courts decide how far they go. Doesn't matter how many times you try to challenge a law as unconstitutional, if the lowest court decides your case has no merit whatsoever, it isn't going very far without some serious evidence of bias on the part of that court or a really big mistake. The Circuit court is likely going to reject you as is the SCOTUS.
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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Since federal government has decided to use the commerce clause to control all regulate business and all of the society instead of just handing trade disputes between states there is countless regulations on the books. As it stands most of the population agrees with this use of the commerce clause, so I either deal with the abuse or move.

    It's also not just that the Constitution is violated in pretty much all areas, but that amendments like four teeth, sixteenth, and seventeenth amendment were added that go against the very goals of the Constitution.

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    Re: Do you care if the Constitution is violated?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I voted "...should never..."

    I don't worry too much about it. Don't play gotcha games over it. With our checks and balances, we're fairly protected.
    The so called checks and balances have only proven to empower the state.

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