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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by akrunner88 View Post
    James Nevils, 5, mauled to death by dog in Gresham; dog killed | abc7chicago.com

    Another day, another life lost due to irresponsible pet ownership.

    The question I pose today is: Should we ban "dangerous" breeds of dogs, and in particular the pit bull (a term encompassing several breeds of dogs)?

    Let me preface my opinion with the fact that I am a pit bull/Labrador mix and pit bull owner. They are the sweetest dogs on the planet and get along with people, dogs, cats, children, etc.

    When discussing pitbulls and breed specifics, excluding the very valid statistics involving incidents of bites, maulings, unpredictable behavior, etc, it is my personal opinion that pits are like any other dog in their instincts, their loyalty to their owners, their response to firm pack leadership, their intelligence, etc. Anyone who has ever came across a pitbull owned by a responsible dog owner knows they can be great family dogs capable of much love and affection.

    The issue with pitbulls, and I'm sure this will be debated, is not the breed itself, and not even good/bad owners, but the types of people attracted to pitbulls in the first place. They are seen as a status dog, much like Rottweilers and other larger, stronger, more brutish, intimidating looking animals. And for that reason, many people seek them out and own them for the wrong reasons.

    Any dog can have a good/bad owner. Bad ownership usually implies a lack of understanding towards the establishment of a pack leader, not honing in and nipping negative traits while fostering positive traits (laziness), not exercising the dog enough, allowing aggressive behaviors to manifest without addressing them, not taking advantage of puppyhood to socialize and train them, etc.

    However, most people don't SEEK to be bad owners. They just don't understand or take in all the responsibilities that owning a dog entails.

    Pitbull owners in many communities across the country SEEK to have a badass, intimidating dog. That's why their associated with ghetto black and white trash communities (coincidentally where pit attacks happen most). You don't hear of cocker spaniel maulings or maulings from many other breeds to often because these dogs aren't sought out as a status symbol. These maulings usually come from bad pet ownership because of the reasons listed above. Pitbulls have a bad wrap because of the types of owners they attract.

    Are pitbulls dangerous? Like other large breed dogs, they are more muscular, heavier, and can inflict much more harm to someone than a Yorker terrier. In this regard, all large dog breeds are dangerous.

    It's people that are dangerous. Irresponsible, stupid people who don't take their role as a pet owner serious enough. And for that reason, pitbulls suffer from unfair criticism and stigmatism in this country. Pit owners like myself face apartment discrimination all the time, and have to deal with negative perceptions (quite deserved) from people who don't understand the breed.

    So to sum up - should pitbulls be banned? My answer is neither yes nor no. I think enough irresponsible people out there in the world seek out pitbulls that it's to be expected that I may have a tougher time having certain communities accept my dogs. With owning a pitbull comes different sets of challenges, mainly public perception that you must be willing to accept and deal with. And that perception is definitely justified, though unfair to the breed as a whole.
    No . . why should they. What legitimate reason is there to "ban" pit bulls?
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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by akrunner88 View Post
    James Nevils, 5, mauled to death by dog in Gresham; dog killed | abc7chicago.com

    Another day, another life lost due to irresponsible pet ownership.

    The question I pose today is: Should we ban "dangerous" breeds of dogs, and in particular the pit bull (a term encompassing several breeds of dogs)?

    Let me preface my opinion with the fact that I am a pit bull/Labrador mix and pit bull owner. They are the sweetest dogs on the planet and get along with people, dogs, cats, children, etc.

    When discussing pitbulls and breed specifics, excluding the very valid statistics involving incidents of bites, maulings, unpredictable behavior, etc, it is my personal opinion that pits are like any other dog in their instincts, their loyalty to their owners, their response to firm pack leadership, their intelligence, etc. Anyone who has ever came across a pitbull owned by a responsible dog owner knows they can be great family dogs capable of much love and affection.

    The issue with pitbulls, and I'm sure this will be debated, is not the breed itself, and not even good/bad owners, but the types of people attracted to pitbulls in the first place. They are seen as a status dog, much like Rottweilers and other larger, stronger, more brutish, intimidating looking animals. And for that reason, many people seek them out and own them for the wrong reasons.

    Any dog can have a good/bad owner. Bad ownership usually implies a lack of understanding towards the establishment of a pack leader, not honing in and nipping negative traits while fostering positive traits (laziness), not exercising the dog enough, allowing aggressive behaviors to manifest without addressing them, not taking advantage of puppyhood to socialize and train them, etc.

    However, most people don't SEEK to be bad owners. They just don't understand or take in all the responsibilities that owning a dog entails.

    Pitbull owners in many communities across the country SEEK to have a badass, intimidating dog. That's why their associated with ghetto black and white trash communities (coincidentally where pit attacks happen most). You don't hear of cocker spaniel maulings or maulings from many other breeds to often because these dogs aren't sought out as a status symbol. These maulings usually come from bad pet ownership because of the reasons listed above. Pitbulls have a bad wrap because of the types of owners they attract.

    Are pitbulls dangerous? Like other large breed dogs, they are more muscular, heavier, and can inflict much more harm to someone than a Yorker terrier. In this regard, all large dog breeds are dangerous.

    It's people that are dangerous. Irresponsible, stupid people who don't take their role as a pet owner serious enough. And for that reason, pitbulls suffer from unfair criticism and stigmatism in this country. Pit owners like myself face apartment discrimination all the time, and have to deal with negative perceptions (quite deserved) from people who don't understand the breed.

    So to sum up - should pitbulls be banned? My answer is neither yes nor no. I think enough irresponsible people out there in the world seek out pitbulls that it's to be expected that I may have a tougher time having certain communities accept my dogs. With owning a pitbull comes different sets of challenges, mainly public perception that you must be willing to accept and deal with. And that perception is definitely justified, though unfair to the breed as a whole.
    The problem is not with the dogs themselves, but with the owners and how they train their dogs. Owners of dogs who allow them to injure someone should be the ones in jail. They should also lose their dogs and those dogs need to be placed in some type of facility to train them to be civil dogs.
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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    My pit bull was "the sweetest dog on the planet" too, until he mauled my six month old daughter to death.
    Wow, horrible story. My condolences to you.
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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Yes, an eliminated breed, a bad invention.
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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    I have had and currently have a number of Rottweilers. Everyone is trained, socialized, is kept in a large fenced yard, lives in the house, walks on a leash and has been a wonderful companion and family member. Even though I trusted them with children, I always watched them around children not because I worried but because it's responsible. A hundred thirty five pound dog can knock a child down by turning it's head unexpectedly. The old axiom is there are no bad dogs,only bad owners is true enough. Anybody who keeps a dog on a chain or lets them run loose is not a responsible dog owner and they only look for trouble.
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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    I'll leave that to local authorities to decide.
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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Just in my own experiences the dogs are not the problem. You can find plenty of data to show pit bulls biting more people than this breed or that breed, or doing more damage when they do, and that is a fair argument. However, pit bulls are also very popular among irresponsible crowds who are more likely than others to neglect the dog, and even teach it to attack, or encourage it to be aggressive because they think it is cool or funny or whatever the case may be. Alot of people also seek pit bulls specifically for protection of property and family and again teach them to be aggressive. The dogs are great pets for the most when raised properly, as seen in countless homes around the world. I wouldn't advocate leaving a pit around small children, especially children your dog hasn't known consistently for years, until you know how they are going to act, but I wouldn't with any breed. But I don't think the problem is with the breed, but rather the people who are commonly drawn to them.

    I would not support banning pits, or any breed. I would support requiring people to take a class before owning a dog. Licensing the owners. Renewable every few years. Something along those lines. I'd also support people being held responsible for what their pets do, especially if the owner could have prevented it.
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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Just in my own experiences the dogs are not the problem. You can find plenty of data to show pit bulls biting more people than this breed or that breed, or doing more damage when they do, and that is a fair argument. However, pit bulls are also very popular among irresponsible crowds who are more likely than others to neglect the dog, and even teach it to attack, or encourage it to be aggressive because they think it is cool or funny or whatever the case may be. Alot of people also seek pit bulls specifically for protection of property and family and again teach them to be aggressive. The dogs are great pets for the most when raised properly, as seen in countless homes around the world. I wouldn't advocate leaving a pit around small children, especially children your dog hasn't known consistently for years, until you know how they are going to act, but I wouldn't with any breed. But I don't think the problem is with the breed, but rather the people who are commonly drawn to them.

    I would not support banning pits, or any breed. I would support requiring people to take a class before owning a dog. Licensing the owners. Renewable every few years. Something along those lines. I'd also support people being held responsible for what their pets do, especially if the owner could have prevented it.
    Yes, and why is that? They are more popular with the irresponsible crowd because they have been bred to be more trainable to be aggressive and more apt to do what the irresponsible people want them to do. Irresponsible people choose this type of dog for a reason. There are bigger dogs. There are stronger dogs. This dog has the 'right' qualities combined to do what they want.
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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Pit bulls are not a specific breed- they are a set of characteristics. You want to ban that?
    Pits have been so over bred that they need to let the breed clean out.
    Too many jerk offs have bred dogs too closely related and done horrible things to them to make the breed unstable.

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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    My pit bull was "the sweetest dog on the planet" too, until he mauled my six month old daughter to death.
    I hear that a lot down here.
    Sadly I blame people, but the dog for the most part is unstable and not easily controlled.

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