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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    My 4 year old niece was killed by her parents pit bull and I still do not believe pit bulls should be banned. It is the rotten owners that are the problem and not the dog breed. In my nieces case her parents knew full well the dog was aggressive and prone to attacking people. They knew it posed a risk to their newborn child. Their solution, chain him up in the yard. This of course was a terrible plan and one headed for disaster. Anyone with any sense should be smart enough not to keep a dangerous animal around your children under any circumstances. What ultimately happened 4 years later is her parents let her outside to play not fully supervised with instructions not to go near the dog, well no reasonable person would expect a 4 year old to always listen, anyway she attempted to play with the dog (or strayed to close) and he mauled her to death.

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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    I vote no.

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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by akrunner88 View Post
    James Nevils, 5, mauled to death by dog in Gresham; dog killed | abc7chicago.com

    Another day, another life lost due to irresponsible pet ownership.

    The question I pose today is: Should we ban "dangerous" breeds of dogs, and in particular the pit bull (a term encompassing several breeds of dogs)?
    I say no.What we should do is hold irresponsible dog owners responsible.If a dog is dangerous it is because that dog's owner did not properly train it, nor was that dog properly secured.The huge vast majority of pit bulls and other dogs deemed to be pit bulls by the media do not attack or kill people.It is only a tiny fraction of a percentage that do this and it is due to irresponsible owners.
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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    It is also a matter of their anatomy. Pits don't attack more often than the rest of the breeds. But WHEN they attack, because of the way their jaws lock, they do much worse damage than other, even larger, breeds.

    But no, they shouldn't be banned. I worked in the kennel of a vet clinic through highschool and college and dealt with many pits. Every one of them was sweet. Of course, the type of owner who brings their pit to a vet is usually a loving owner.

    Don't get me started on Chows, though. Most of them that came in were mean (in that particular environment at least), regardless of how nice the owners were. But I don't think they should be banned either.
    Pit Bull Myths
    "Pit Bulls have locking jaws." The jaws of the Pit Bull are functionally
    the same as the jaws of any other breed, and this has been proven via
    expert examination.

    The few studies which have been conducted of the structure of the
    skulls, mandibles and teeth of Pit Bulls show that, in proportion to their
    size, their jaw structure and thus its inferred functional morphology, is
    no different than that of any [other] breed of dog. There is absolutely
    not evidence for the existence of any kind of ’locking mechanism’ unique
    to the structure of the jaw and/or teeth of the American Pit Bull Terrier,
    says Dr. I. Lerh Brisbin of the University of Georgia (from the ADBA
    booklet, “Discover the American Pit Bull Terrier.)
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    No!

    I'd be favorably inclined towards shooting the owners though.

    Caveat: IF accidents involving their dog(s) are due to their irresponsibility.

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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Pit Bull Myths
    "Pit Bulls have locking jaws." The jaws of the Pit Bull are functionally
    the same as the jaws of any other breed, and this has been proven via
    expert examination.

    The few studies which have been conducted of the structure of the
    skulls, mandibles and teeth of Pit Bulls show that, in proportion to their
    size, their jaw structure and thus its inferred functional morphology, is
    no different than that of any [other] breed of dog. There is absolutely
    not evidence for the existence of any kind of ’locking mechanism’ unique
    to the structure of the jaw and/or teeth of the American Pit Bull Terrier,
    says Dr. I. Lerh Brisbin of the University of Georgia (from the ADBA
    booklet, “Discover the American Pit Bull Terrier.)
    Their jaws may not lock, but they are strong. When my pit mix bites his deflated soccer ball I can pick it up and spin him in circles without him losing his grip.

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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by akrunner88 View Post
    James Nevils, 5, mauled to death by dog in Gresham; dog killed | abc7chicago.com

    Another day, another life lost due to irresponsible pet ownership.

    The question I pose today is: Should we ban "dangerous" breeds of dogs, and in particular the pit bull (a term encompassing several breeds of dogs)?

    Let me preface my opinion with the fact that I am a pit bull/Labrador mix and pit bull owner. They are the sweetest dogs on the planet and get along with people, dogs, cats, children, etc.

    When discussing pitbulls and breed specifics, excluding the very valid statistics involving incidents of bites, maulings, unpredictable behavior, etc, it is my personal opinion that pits are like any other dog in their instincts, their loyalty to their owners, their response to firm pack leadership, their intelligence, etc. Anyone who has ever came across a pitbull owned by a responsible dog owner knows they can be great family dogs capable of much love and affection.

    The issue with pitbulls, and I'm sure this will be debated, is not the breed itself, and not even good/bad owners, but the types of people attracted to pitbulls in the first place. They are seen as a status dog, much like Rottweilers and other larger, stronger, more brutish, intimidating looking animals. And for that reason, many people seek them out and own them for the wrong reasons.

    Any dog can have a good/bad owner. Bad ownership usually implies a lack of understanding towards the establishment of a pack leader, not honing in and nipping negative traits while fostering positive traits (laziness), not exercising the dog enough, allowing aggressive behaviors to manifest without addressing them, not taking advantage of puppyhood to socialize and train them, etc.

    However, most people don't SEEK to be bad owners. They just don't understand or take in all the responsibilities that owning a dog entails.

    Pitbull owners in many communities across the country SEEK to have a badass, intimidating dog. That's why their associated with ghetto black and white trash communities (coincidentally where pit attacks happen most). You don't hear of cocker spaniel maulings or maulings from many other breeds to often because these dogs aren't sought out as a status symbol. These maulings usually come from bad pet ownership because of the reasons listed above. Pitbulls have a bad wrap because of the types of owners they attract.

    Are pitbulls dangerous? Like other large breed dogs, they are more muscular, heavier, and can inflict much more harm to someone than a Yorker terrier. In this regard, all large dog breeds are dangerous.

    It's people that are dangerous. Irresponsible, stupid people who don't take their role as a pet owner serious enough. And for that reason, pitbulls suffer from unfair criticism and stigmatism in this country. Pit owners like myself face apartment discrimination all the time, and have to deal with negative perceptions (quite deserved) from people who don't understand the breed.

    So to sum up - should pitbulls be banned? My answer is neither yes nor no. I think enough irresponsible people out there in the world seek out pitbulls that it's to be expected that I may have a tougher time having certain communities accept my dogs. With owning a pitbull comes different sets of challenges, mainly public perception that you must be willing to accept and deal with. And that perception is definitely justified, though unfair to the breed as a whole.
    My pit bull was "the sweetest dog on the planet" too, until he mauled my six month old daughter to death.

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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Banned from what...existence?

    Too late.

    But any animal that is easily capable of killing a child should be classified as a weapon and the owner must have a license to own such an animal. Plus, the animal should pass some sort of exam from an expert that they are well tempered/well trained.
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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    My 4 year old niece was killed by her parents pit bull and I still do not believe pit bulls should be banned. It is the rotten owners that are the problem and not the dog breed. In my nieces case her parents knew full well the dog was aggressive and prone to attacking people. They knew it posed a risk to their newborn child. Their solution, chain him up in the yard. This of course was a terrible plan and one headed for disaster. Anyone with any sense should be smart enough not to keep a dangerous animal around your children under any circumstances. What ultimately happened 4 years later is her parents let her outside to play not fully supervised with instructions not to go near the dog, well no reasonable person would expect a 4 year old to always listen, anyway she attempted to play with the dog (or strayed to close) and he mauled her to death.
    It's hit and miss. My dog was never aggressive until he killed my daughter. Wasn't raised to fight, just a family pet.

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    Re: Should pit bulls be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    It's hit and miss. My dog was never aggressive until he killed my daughter. Wasn't raised to fight, just a family pet.
    I am sorry to hear about your daughter. That has to be a terrible thing to go threw.


    Your situation seems to be a lot more understandable than my nieces. In her case they knew the dog posed a serious threat and refused to get rid of it. When the mother was pregnant I even strongly suggest they get rid of the dog multiple times but their reply "he is one of the family". I am sorry but my child's safely would always come first. In their case they seemed to be torn between the dog and their daughter which I just cannot understand and I completely place the blame of the situation on them.

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