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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I don't think that a Young Earth Creationist has any business with political power, let alone in the white house. If you are so out of touch with reality or so distrustful of facts that you think the world could be thousands instead of billions of years old, you can't be trusted with anything serious.
    Are there any Republican potential nominees who are not creationists?
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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Are there any Republican potential nominees who are not creationists?
    Good question....

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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Are there any Republican potential nominees who are not creationists?
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    Good question....
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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    There are two republicans that I find unacceptable, Graham and Huckabee. I'm on the fence with Santorum. I could live with the rest although I'm content to let the field narrow before I pick a favorite.
    I put santorum on the No way I'd vote for him list though if the Hildabeast is the candidate I might.
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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Sadly, I doubt they could admit it if they weren't.
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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    It's still State politics. Republicans do fine on the State level, but lately on the national stage not so good. And also obviously there's a whole different set of backers and power brokers in a National election/primary. Many of you Republicans are underestimating the Bush money, backers, and the Bush political machine.
    I agree Bush Money shouldn't be underestimated. But here is where the large field disadvantages him. Money is mostly useful (especially for a candidate such as Bush) in defining other candidates - with multiple serious conservative challengers, Bush's money is spread thin.

    Nor is it "state politics". It's ability to communicate. We have a President right now who won because he was seen as transformational because he was exceptionally good at giving the right kinds of speeches to the right people. Rubio has that.

    In 2012 Romney spiraled down about 1/2 dozen times. He still ended up the GOP nom. It's early.
    Romney depended on the self-destruction of the conservative alternatives, something Jeb can't depend on. But we'll see .
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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I don't think that a Young Earth Creationist has any business with political power, let alone in the white house. If you are so out of touch with reality or so distrustful of facts that you think the world could be thousands instead of billions of years old, you can't be trusted with anything serious.
    I agree that we should find a way to filter out ignorance. Let's re-institute poll tests. Basic stuff like "What are the three branches of government" and "Who is the current vice president". You would want to keep it pretty simple and dry so as to avoid controversial topics (no one wants the GOP using their local dominance to ensure that nobody can vote unless they can articulate the policy implications of Hausers' Law), But I think those two and a couple of other basic ones about the structure of our government could do us a world of good at keeping those who are ignorant about the basics from wielding the worlds' only Hyperpower.
    “In America we have a two-party system,” a Republican congressional staffer told a visiting group of Russian legislators. “There is the stupid party. And there is the evil party. I am proud to be a member of the stupid party. Periodically, the two parties get together and do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called: bipartisanship."

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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I put santorum on the No way I'd vote for him list though if the Hildabeast is the candidate I might.
    I'm not nuts about Santorum. I don't think he has a chance of getting the nomination. Unfortunately Huckabee has a better chance. This might be a little crazy but I'm interested to see what Trump has to say.
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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I lean to Rubio as VP because he has a direct Hispanic face and American voters are like that--whether folks want to hear that or not.
    However, I think Gov. Sandoval of NM would do a much better job as VP, has a much lengthier resume, and would bring along NV, NM, and CO.

    Ii's easy to see Walker winning Iowa and Paul running a tie for 2nd.
    NH is far different with an open primary--which I believe helps Paul the most.

    If Bush was so sure of himself, I think he'd have announced already.
    He's down to 10% in the winner-take-all Florida primary which will be a bloodbath .


    Well after all are done with Randal. We will see what he can do for Kentucky. As he is a waste of space for the rest of the Nation.

    He might want to think about joining the ranks of the Democrats. Where he can be welcomed with open arms and empty wallets.

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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Romney depended on the self-destruction of the conservative alternatives, something Jeb can't depend on.
    Why? You don't think that some of Huckabee's or Santorum's or Graham's views on religion and religion in government(them being very much FOR it) will torpedo their campaigns? Or their far right views on social issues?

    Jeb and Pataki are the moderates in the GOP field right now. And in spite what the Limbaugh's and Fox says the GOP establishment isn't stupid, they KNOW to win the White House their candidate needs to move to the center during the general election, and Jeb is the only one who can do that.

    Richard Nixon once said: For a Republican to win the presidency he had to: "Run hard to the right in the primaries; steer back to the center for the general election."

    He was 100% right. I don't see any GOP candidate moving to the center in the ge except Bush, the others are entrenched in the far right policies of the TP.
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