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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Nimby. Hope all is well with ya. Oh, a bit on Rubio.

    First of all, let me preface this blog post by stating right up front that no Republican candidate edges Hillary Clinton head-to-head in the latest CNN/ORC survey.

    Marco Rubio, who is statistically the frontrunner among Republicans (polling at an impressive 14 percent), trails her by three percentage points (49/46). Even Rand Paul, who is the most competitive GOP candidate against her, trails her by the slimmest of margins (48/47).

    Hillary Clinton’s internal polling numbers are somewhat alarming. Indeed, she is underwater on a number of key character questions.....snip~

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-ele...s-hillary.html
    Since I'm one of the few and proud DEMs to admit who I am, you also know I watch as much of the new FOX polls and commentary I can stomach.
    You damn well know they're pushing Walker and Rubio and spinning hard against Paul.

    Just go to Election 2016 - Presidential Primaries, Caucuses, and Conventions

    The Green Papers have everything you could want to know of debates, caucuses, primaries, conventions, delegates--Premier link.
    Just the facts man--and I haven't made a spreadsheet on the GOP primaries/caucus delegates yet.
    And J.E.B. lost a round when Nevada voted to stay Caucus .
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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Since I'm one of the few and proud DEMs to admit who I am, you also know I watch as much of the new FOX polls and commentary I can stomach.
    You damn well know they're pushing Walker and Rubio and spinning hard against Paul.

    Just go to Election 2016 - Presidential Primaries, Caucuses, and Conventions

    The Green Papers have everything you could want to know of debates, caucuses, primaries, conventions, delegates--Premier link.
    Just the facts man--and I haven't made a spreadsheet yet on the GOP primaries/caucus delegates yet.
    And J.E.B. lost a round when Nevada voted to stay Caucus .
    Yeah and Rubio schooled Bush on Foreign policy to.....he does have the advantage there over Bush.

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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    I lean to Rubio as VP because he has a direct Hispanic face and American voters are like that--whether folks want to hear that or not.
    However, I think Gov. Sandoval of NM would do a much better job as VP, has a much lengthier resume, and would bring along NV, NM, and CO.

    Ii's easy to see Walker winning Iowa and Paul running a tie for 2nd.
    NH is far different with an open primary--which I believe helps Paul the most.

    If Bush was so sure of himself, I think he'd have announced already.
    He's down to 10% in the winner-take-all Florida primary which will be a bloodbath .

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    In 2012 Fox wanted anyone but Romney too. Hell, they and other conservative hosts are still pushing the BS that the reason Romney lost was because he was too moderate. For ratings they want someone as far to the right as possible. It sells.. So in 2016, I can see them pushing Walker, and anyone to the far right.

    And there's no doubt Fox and the AM Radio conservatives have pull with the GOP, and they keep the Republican base riled up. But it still comes down the the GOP establishment, and Bush has them, and he has lots of money backers behind him. I think it will be Bush, and maybe Rubio as his VP choice.
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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Walker and Rubio have no chance. Rubio is a possible VP choice for Jeb, but he'll never get the prez nod for the GOP. He'll bring in the Latino vote as VP. But if you think the moderates will vote for him as the prez? Nope. Too far right.
    Rubio is the best communicator on either side of the aisle. He won against a heavily favored incumbent in Florida on a platform of entitlement reform. He'll be fine.

    Besides, being strongly right or strongly left isn't a disadvantage anymore in Presidential politics, but an advantage. American politics is bifurcating - we're no more a bell curve, but rather two bell curves.



    Presidential elections are no longer won by winning the middle without losing your base, but by energizing your base without scaring off the middle.


    Walker's will get a sniff in the mid-west states, but on the coasts he'll fail. He too is too far right, and he's prone to sounding like a moron when he's in front of a mic. Reminds me a little of Rick Perry in 2012..He had some legs early, then the debates started and he opened his mouth. That was all she wrote.
    he might gaffe, but I sincerely doubt he'll pull a Rick Perry. He's less than half of a percentage point behind Jeb in South Carolina and 1.7% points behind Jeb in New Hampshire. And those polls are before Jeb's recent collapse in support among the GOP.

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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Paul is the only viable candidate from either party.

    Hoping he doesn't succumb to pressure from the Establishment to go neocon. Neocons are as worthless as any liberal/progressive/socialist.

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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Rubio is the best communicator on either side of the aisle. He won against a heavily favored incumbent in Florida on a platform of entitlement reform.
    That's State politics. You know on the National level it's a completely different ballgame.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    he might gaffe, but I sincerely doubt he'll pull a Rick Perry.
    It's very, very early.
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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    That's State politics. You know on the National level it's a completely different ballgame.
    Yeah. One that heavily rewards solid communicative skills and the ability to winningly sell complex ideas to skeptical audiences. Rubio proved he could do that. The point about State Politics is that they were heavily against his ability to pull that off, and he did because he's a good communicator.

    It's very, very early.
    Indeed it is. And Jeb Bush is already spiraling downwards, and I don't really see what's going to pull him up and out.

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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by ConsvLiberal View Post
    I think he is a really good alternative to Jeb Bush who is not a really good Republican. Should Rand Paul be the candidate for the Republicans in 2016?
    He's not my favorite Republican but an acceptable choice. I don't think isolationism is good foreign policy and some of his ideas remind me a little bit of Obama which is why he's not at the top of my list.
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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yeah. One that heavily rewards solid communicative skills and the ability to winningly sell complex ideas to skeptical audiences. Rubio proved he could do that. The point about State Politics is that they were heavily against his ability to pull that off, and he did because he's a good communicator.
    It's still State politics. Republicans do fine on the State level, but lately on the national stage not so good. And also obviously there's a whole different set of backers and power brokers in a National election/primary. Many of you Republicans are underestimating the Bush money, backers, and the Bush political machine.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Indeed it is. And Jeb Bush is already spiraling downwards, and I don't really see what's going to pull him up and out.
    In 2012 Romney spiraled down about 1/2 dozen times. He still ended up the GOP nom. It's early.
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    Re: Rand Paul as President in 2016

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