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Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

Is Elizabeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?


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Is Elizabeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

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[h=3]Warren: Trade Deal "Secret Because If Details Were Made Public Now, The Public Would Oppose It"[/h]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/21/warren_trade_deal_secret_because_if_details_were_made_public_now_the_public_would_oppose_it.html



I say yes she is correct. The only reason for keeping something secret is because you do not want others to know.If this trade deal was a good thing then I would think they would want everyone to know.They would not be trying to hide the details of this trade deal.
 
Are you asking if she's "right" about why the deals secret? Anyway, she's read the drafts and opposes it!! The supporters at DP haven't seen dick!
 
Are you asking if she's "right" about why the deals secret? Anyway, she's read the drafts and opposes it!! The supporters at DP haven't seen dick!

Why is the trade deal secret if it so wonderful?
 
The American People have the right to know what is in it so they can tell their representatives how they want them to vote on it.
 
IMO, very few of the American public are qualified to approve/disapprove of any trade deal ..They simply have not the time nor the facilities .. nor the knowledge ..Congress, OTOH, does - its what they do .
 
IMO, very few of the American public are qualified to approve/disapprove of any trade deal
Maybe so, but it wouldn't hurt to throw the lumpen proletariat a bone now and then, would it?
Let the little people have a look-see.
Why would that be a bad thing?

They simply have not the time nor the facilities .. nor the knowledge ..Congress, OTOH, does - its what they do .
Yeah....I'm certain that our stalwart reps are spending their free time studying the nuances of this trade deal.
Uh-oh.....they can't be studying the deal because it's hidden in a secret vault where all they can do...evidently...is gaze at it in all its grandeur.
Oh well.....that frees up more time for our highly qualified reps to meet with campaign donors, I guess.
Say...I'll bet those donors know a lot about the pending agreement.
I'm guessing our reps will be bribed....oops...I mean enlightened as to the merits of the deal.
 
I cant help but feel like Obama is playing the GOP like a fiddle on this and that he is absolutely ultimately setting up Warren to step in in the 10th hour, replace Hilary, and become the Dem nominee and ultimately win the presidency. When the parties are so completely split and its the GOP siding with Obama??? Come on...you just KNOW something is hinkey...
 
IMO, very few of the American public are qualified to approve/disapprove of any trade deal ..They simply have not the time nor the facilities .. nor the knowledge ..Congress, OTOH, does - its what they do .

I seriously doubt those doing the trade deal and those voting to fast track the trade deal took a college course on the subject. The only reason for keeping this secret is due to the fact they do not want the general public knowing about the trade deal until it is too late to oppose it.
 
I cant help but feel like Obama is playing the GOP like a fiddle on this and that he is absolutely ultimately setting up Warren to step in in the 10th hour, replace Hilary, and become the Dem nominee and ultimately win the presidency. When the parties are so completely split and its the GOP siding with Obama??? Come on...you just KNOW something is hinkey...

And it will be the republican's own fault.As far as I know anyone no one voted for republicans thinking to themselves "gee I sure hope they give Obama what he wants because the democrats were doing a horrible job at that".
 
I don't think it should be. EW has read the drafts, she opposes it, not good!
If this wasn't secret then we would know exactly why she opposes it.But considering the fact chamber of commerce republicans and chamber of commerce democrats love licking the testicles of big business even at the expense of our nation's sovereignty and the American worker we have to assume this trade deal royally screw the American worker.
 
Why is the trade deal secret if it so wonderful?

because it has been purchased by special interests and will **** over workers just like all of the other trade deals.
 
because it has been purchased by special interests and will **** over workers just like all of the other trade deals.
If you notice they are telling the same lies about how it is good for the American worker if we ship their jobs overseas.Its a shame we can't outsource the jobs of elected officials to other countries.I am sure there are some intelligent Indians, Chinese, and other people with a skype cam that do the job of our elected officials but much cheaper.At least we know that with those people can lie and say they are patriotic Americans to our faces while screwing us like our elected officials do.
 
I cant help but feel like Obama is playing the GOP like a fiddle on this and that he is absolutely ultimately setting up Warren to step in in the 10th hour, replace Hilary, and become the Dem nominee and ultimately win the presidency. When the parties are so completely split and its the GOP siding with Obama??? Come on...you just KNOW something is hinkey...

Warren win the presidency, I don't think so. :doh
 
because it has been purchased by special interests and will **** over workers just like all of the other trade deals.

I've always said Obama has never been for the middle class, working class or anyone for that matter.
 
If you notice they are telling the same lies about how it is good for the American worker if we ship their jobs overseas.Its a shame we can't outsource the jobs of elected officials to other countries.I am sure there are some intelligent Indians, Chinese, and other people with a skype cam that do the job of our elected officials but much cheaper.At least we know that with those people can lie and say they are patriotic Americans to our faces while screwing us like our elected officials do.

oh, yeah, i noticed.

replace the ****ers with a computer program. i guarantee that it would do a better job. at least let the computer draw their districts so that they can't cheat as easily.
 
I've always said Obama has never been for the middle class, working class or anyone for that matter.

he's a corporatist, just like most other politicians. there aren't very many politicians that those with money can't buy if they feel like they can save money by firing you. in my state, they can fire you for any reason or for no reason at all. that was probably billed as something potentially awesome for workers, too. i don't know how many more formerly prosperous cities and regions are going to have to rot before we finally wake up. i understand that we are entering a post labor era due to a lot of factors, but right now, it's pay people to work or pay them not to. i prefer the former.
 
I cant help but feel like Obama is playing the GOP like a fiddle on this and that he is absolutely ultimately setting up Warren to step in in the 10th hour, replace Hilary, and become the Dem nominee and ultimately win the presidency. When the parties are so completely split and its the GOP siding with Obama??? Come on...you just KNOW something is hinkey...

I want so badly for Hillary to lose the primary again.
 
I cant help but feel like Obama is playing the GOP like a fiddle on this and that he is absolutely ultimately setting up Warren to step in in the 10th hour, replace Hilary, and become the Dem nominee and ultimately win the presidency. When the parties are so completely split and its the GOP siding with Obama??? Come on...you just KNOW something is hinkey...
I doubt this scenario, but I DO like your creative thinking!
 
I doubt this scenario, but I DO like your creative thinking!
Its hard to fathom anything different. Right now, this whole trade deal thing is like bizarro world.
 
Warren win the presidency, I don't think so. :doh
Why not? All she has to do is win the dem nomination. Look...I think until things radically change, the dems are in the WH. It doesnt matter if they run a dog turd with a D next to it. People claim they are 'for' Hillary but thats a lie. (OK...I suppose SOME could actually value and treasure a liar that has done nothing but ride on her husbands coattails, deceive, fail, and along the way, trash the reputations of her husbands victims)They are 'for' Hillary because she is the presumptive nominee.

Besides...if that IS what this is about, Warren and Obama both will get ticker tape parades.
 
I know! Let's ask Hillary. I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner.
 
Its hard to fathom anything different. Right now, this whole trade deal thing is like bizarro world.
Well,

with Hillary being pretty much the sole Dem Presidential candidate besides Senator Sanders, I suppose I could see a fall-back scenario required if Ms. Clinton mis-steps or suffers a fatal blow (politically or physically).

I still don't see Senator Warren going all the way to the White House, but I've been wrong before. (I'd vote for her in a heart-beat though, and over Ms. Clinton for sure)
 
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