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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    What a line!

    And Dems also control most of the top 10 richest cities!
    Put the list out there. And don't forget to add in the list of the most dangerous or I should say the most safest.

    We already know that the dems control the 10 poorest cities AND the 10 most dangerous cities.
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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Put the list out there. And don't forget to add in the list of the most dangerous or I should say the most safest.

    We already know that the dems control the 10 poorest cities AND the 10 most dangerous cities.
    Here ya' go my friend:

    Yahoo Finance Top 10 Richest Cities

    I also Googled a random list of the safest cities, and off the top-of-my head it looks to be a 50/50 or maybe 60/40 split, which seems to show...what?

    I'll let you research the individual mayors a little better, if you'd like.

    Top 10 Safest Cities

    (interesting to note Garland Tx is on the list - I also assumed the mayor's GOP)

    +++

    I noticed you haven't addressed the rural area economic failures, though.

    But I guess the big question is: "Why is this even about parties"?

    They're both B.S.
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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    horse****.
    Horse **** that jobs don't equal prosperity and wage growth. I see your not for jobs either. Typical liberal

    we're talking about college, not high school.
    I see you avoided answering that voucher question. You want free collage but how about first allowing students from K - 12 to have a choice of schools based on performance. That would go a long way in our children getting a better education

    how much more in taxes are you personally willing to pay to maintain a state of endless war? (in USD)
    endless war, I see you think nothing of the the people that jumped to death rather than burn to death on 9-11 and you think nothing of Pearl Harbor while our service men and woman were beating on the hulls of ships with no escape. You also think nothing of our constitution that calls for our government to protect it's citizen, throw the constitution out. Yes liberals would love that.

    zero ****s given. i don't fall for the my team vs yours bull****. i want the best working conditions, job security, and wages for the largest number of people. we are most likely on the SAME team : workers.
    You want job security then join the teachers union. Job security at who's expense? Yep the tax payer. And the best working conditions, like do nothing for your pay. Too solve your job security and job conditions get on welfare and food stamps.

    this is looking more and more hopeless. please pay more attention to my arguments and less attention to what you wish my arguments were so that you can find some hyperpartisan foothold.
    You have no argument, your just wining, wanting job security (can't be fired) and the best working conditions (do nothing for your paycheck). Sorry liberal freebies is not the way to prosperity. And let me say, try going into business for yourself, own your own business. See what it's like to actually make a business work and make sure your business provides you with job security if you can make it. And make sure you have the best working conditions in your business if you can afford it.

    Something tells me you would never own a business, it would not provide job security or the best working conditions as you might have to work 7 days a week to make your business survive. And then make sure if you have an employee they come first over all else as you owe then that over your hard earned money you may lose if you go under. BTW the mortality rate of a new business going broke is extremely high in the first two years, so plan on working 7 days a week along with sleepless night worrying if you can make payroll or pay a vender. Go ahead and try investing your hard earned money and put it on the line for your business and see if you don't lose it all. See what it feel like.

    Further if you have a job under Obama's failed policies your one of the lucky ones. I suggest you call him up and tell him all the things you want and see if he will provide them. Good luck with that. Otherwise go on welfare and food stamps and move to a state that has state welfare in addition to the government programs, then you will have job security and the best working conditions.

    Start your own business and then voice your complaints how hard it is, but don't expect any sympathy from liberals, as you are one, they demonize businesses. Good luck.
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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    But I guess the big question is: "Why is this even about parties"?

    They're both B.S.
    Good point, I can't argue with that.
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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Good point, I can't argue with that.
    And, neither can I!
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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Horse **** that jobs don't equal prosperity and wage growth. I see your not for jobs either. Typical liberal
    bleh. go team nonsense. i'm not interested.

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    I see you avoided answering that voucher question. You want free collage but how about first allowing students from K - 12 to have a choice of schools based on performance. That would go a long way in our children getting a better education
    as long as it isn't used as a tool to defund public schools, and then to punish them for performing poorly with less funds. that's what they do in my state.

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    endless war, I see you think nothing of the the people that jumped to death rather than burn to death on 9-11 and you think nothing of Pearl Harbor while our service men and woman were beating on the hulls of ships with no escape. You also think nothing of our constitution that calls for our government to protect it's citizen, throw the constitution out. Yes liberals would love that.
    yeah, **** this. goodbye.

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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    bleh. go team nonsense. i'm not interested.



    as long as it isn't used as a tool to defund public schools, and then to punish them for performing poorly with less funds. that's what they do in my state.



    yeah, **** this. goodbye.
    Yeah you said stop all wars. I pointed out that is not possible. And you blow it off.

    You are against a voucher system so that students can pick a school of their choice based on performance. You come back with as long as it does not defund public schools. The public schools are the problem, a voucher system rewards performing schools with attendance and those that fail in performance should be shut down. That is the market place, but you are all for job security no matter if a student is not getting a good education.

    And I repeat

    You have no argument, your just wining, wanting job security (can't be fired) and the best working conditions (do nothing for your paycheck). Sorry liberal freebies is not the way to prosperity. And let me say, try going into business for yourself, own your own business. See what it's like to actually make a business work and make sure your business provides you with job security if you can make it. And make sure you have the best working conditions in your business if you can afford it.

    Something tells me you would never own a business, it would not provide job security or the best working conditions as you might have to work 7 days a week to make your business survive. And then make sure if you have an employee they come first over all else as you owe then that over your hard earned money you may lose if you go under. BTW the mortality rate of a new business going broke is extremely high in the first two years, so plan on working 7 days a week along with sleepless night worrying if you can make payroll or pay a vender. Go ahead and try investing your hard earned money and put it on the line for your business and see if you don't lose it all. See what it feel like.

    Further if you have a job under Obama's failed policies your one of the lucky ones. I suggest you call him up and tell him all the things you want and see if he will provide them. Good luck with that. Otherwise go on welfare and food stamps and move to a state that has state welfare in addition to the government programs, then you will have job security and the best working conditions.

    Start your own business and then voice your complaints how hard it is, but don't expect any sympathy from liberals, as you are one, they demonize businesses. Good luck.
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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    TPP extends patents, copyrights and other monopolies so investors can collect “rents.” Stop Calling the TPP a Trade Agreement

    Um, time to wake up. It's NOT about jobs people!

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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    I hate to burst anybody's bubble, but the public will never know what the treaty does, even way after it has been made public. Very few members of the public can accurately describe what is in the ACA, and that is perhaps the most public, most widely discussed piece of legislation out there. The anti-arms trafficking treaty a couple years ago was blocked in the Senate because the public for some reason thought it said exactly the opposite of what it said. Same with the background check bill. The reality is that the public in general, and especially the right, just think bills and treaties say whatever their preferred pundits say they say, and that rarely has much relationship to what is actually in them.

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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    I hate to burst anybody's bubble, but the public will never know what the treaty does, even way after it has been made public. .
    The general public is too stupid to know what exactly it is about so lets keep secret? Is that what it is about?

    Very few members of the public can accurately describe what is in the ACA, and that is perhaps the most public, most widely discussed piece of legislation out there.
    Neither can most of the people in congress and senate.If you remember correctly Nancy Pelosi said we got to pass it so that way we can find out what is in it.
    The anti-arms trafficking treaty a couple years ago was blocked in the Senate because the public for some reason thought it said exactly the opposite of what it said. Same with the background check bill. The reality is that the public in general, and especially the right, just think bills and treaties say whatever their preferred pundits say they say, and that rarely has much relationship to what is actually in them
    You know this how seeing how you just said basically just said most of the public is too stupid to understand the bill? Or are you believing whatever the pundits on the left are telling you?
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