Thread: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

Originally Posted by VanceMack

I cant help but feel like Obama is playing the GOP like a fiddle on this and that he is absolutely ultimately setting up Warren to step in in the 10th hour, replace Hilary, and become the Dem nominee and ultimately win the presidency. When the parties are so completely split and its the GOP siding with Obama??? Come on...you just KNOW something is hinkey...

I doubt this scenario, but I DO like your creative thinking!

Originally Posted by VanceMack

Its hard to fathom anything different. Right now, this whole trade deal thing is like bizarro world.

Well,

with Hillary being pretty much the sole Dem Presidential candidate besides Senator Sanders, I suppose I could see a fall-back scenario required if Ms. Clinton mis-steps or suffers a fatal blow (politically or physically).

I still don't see Senator Warren going all the way to the White House, but I've been wrong before. (I'd vote for her in a heart-beat though, and over Ms. Clinton for sure)

Originally Posted by VanceMack

Why not? All she has to do is win the dem nomination. Look...I think until things radically change, the dems are in the WH. It doesnt matter if they run a dog turd with a D next to it.

I'm not quite so sanguine, but do think you're probably correct if the Dems run a strong candidate - I do not believe the Dem's structural advantage is guaranteed to prevail with a weak candidate.

And, we also have to figure-in the traditional difficulty of keeping the White House in the same party for a third consecutive term.

So quite honestly, I don't see the Dems as an automatic shoe-in for the 2016 Presidential bid. Reasonably likely (with Hillary), bur far from fait accompli.

Originally Posted by Helix

he's a corporatist, just like most other politicians. there aren't very many politicians that those with money can't buy if they feel like they can save money by firing you. in my state, they can fire you for any reason or for no reason at all. that was probably billed as something potentially awesome for workers, too. i don't know how many more formerly prosperous cities and regions are going to have to rot before we finally wake up. i understand that we are entering a post labor era due to a lot of factors, but right now, it's pay people to work or pay them not to. i prefer the former.

A corporation or any business for that matter is there to make a profit. Businesses fail, owners may lose everything they had, business do what is necessary to stay afloat. Call that survival instinct. Workers get fired in most cases as they are not needed or the company is forced to cut back do to economic reasons. Workers get fired for poor performance. This is all tied in to a company being successful and keeping workers paid and weeding out the non performers. A company that would carry a poor performing worker is making it harder for the company to survive and it's not fair to the other performing workers.

As for cities rotting. Do you know that the top 10 poorest cities in the US are run by Democrats and the top 10 dangerous cities are run by Democrats. Those titles are nothing to cheer about. There is no jobs in those 20 democrat run cites let alone someone getting laid off. Jobs equal prosperity and higher wages, always has. This last quarter our economy had a -.07 GDP meaning we are now going backwards.

Originally Posted by VanceMack

Why not? All she has to do is win the dem nomination. Look...I think until things radically change, the dems are in the WH. It doesnt matter if they run a dog turd with a D next to it. People claim they are 'for' Hillary but thats a lie. (OK...I suppose SOME could actually value and treasure a liar that has done nothing but ride on her husbands coattails, deceive, fail, and along the way, trash the reputations of her husbands victims)They are 'for' Hillary because she is the presumptive nominee.

Besides...if that IS what this is about, Warren and Obama both will get ticker tape parades.

Here are some stats for you to ponder.

State governors R=31 D=18

House R=245 D188

Senate R=54 D=44

People are sick and tired of liberal failure. There has been a wave of Democrat demise, put a D in front of their name and they are toast, I don't care what they are running for. Hillery and Warren included.

Originally Posted by VanceMack

2 things.

1-I dont think that matters when it comes to presidential election cycles. Thats the one time people tend to bother to vote.
2-Should a republican win...how will we know the difference?

1. I said people are sick and tired liberal failure, that includes Hillery and whoever with a D

2. Easy we won't have a county that looks like the 20 worst cities run by Democrats. Did you know the 10 poorest cities are run by democrats and the 10 most dangerous cities are run by democrats. At least you will know our country will not look like one of those cities that Obama has been trying to make this country into.