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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm not suggesting its wonderful.
    Then why keep it secret?
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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Then why keep it secret?
    I don't think it should be. EW has read the drafts, she opposes it, not good!
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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't think it should be. EW has read the drafts, she opposes it, not good!
    If this wasn't secret then we would know exactly why she opposes it.But considering the fact chamber of commerce republicans and chamber of commerce democrats love licking the testicles of big business even at the expense of our nation's sovereignty and the American worker we have to assume this trade deal royally screw the American worker.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Why is the trade deal secret if it so wonderful?
    because it has been purchased by special interests and will **** over workers just like all of the other trade deals.

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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    because it has been purchased by special interests and will **** over workers just like all of the other trade deals.
    If you notice they are telling the same lies about how it is good for the American worker if we ship their jobs overseas.Its a shame we can't outsource the jobs of elected officials to other countries.I am sure there are some intelligent Indians, Chinese, and other people with a skype cam that do the job of our elected officials but much cheaper.At least we know that with those people can lie and say they are patriotic Americans to our faces while screwing us like our elected officials do.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I cant help but feel like Obama is playing the GOP like a fiddle on this and that he is absolutely ultimately setting up Warren to step in in the 10th hour, replace Hilary, and become the Dem nominee and ultimately win the presidency. When the parties are so completely split and its the GOP siding with Obama??? Come on...you just KNOW something is hinkey...
    Warren win the presidency, I don't think so.
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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    because it has been purchased by special interests and will **** over workers just like all of the other trade deals.
    I've always said Obama has never been for the middle class, working class or anyone for that matter.
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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If you notice they are telling the same lies about how it is good for the American worker if we ship their jobs overseas.Its a shame we can't outsource the jobs of elected officials to other countries.I am sure there are some intelligent Indians, Chinese, and other people with a skype cam that do the job of our elected officials but much cheaper.At least we know that with those people can lie and say they are patriotic Americans to our faces while screwing us like our elected officials do.
    oh, yeah, i noticed.

    replace the ****ers with a computer program. i guarantee that it would do a better job. at least let the computer draw their districts so that they can't cheat as easily.

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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    I've always said Obama has never been for the middle class, working class or anyone for that matter.
    he's a corporatist, just like most other politicians. there aren't very many politicians that those with money can't buy if they feel like they can save money by firing you. in my state, they can fire you for any reason or for no reason at all. that was probably billed as something potentially awesome for workers, too. i don't know how many more formerly prosperous cities and regions are going to have to rot before we finally wake up. i understand that we are entering a post labor era due to a lot of factors, but right now, it's pay people to work or pay them not to. i prefer the former.

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    Re: Is Elizibeth Warren about why the trade deal is kept secret?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I cant help but feel like Obama is playing the GOP like a fiddle on this and that he is absolutely ultimately setting up Warren to step in in the 10th hour, replace Hilary, and become the Dem nominee and ultimately win the presidency. When the parties are so completely split and its the GOP siding with Obama??? Come on...you just KNOW something is hinkey...
    I want so badly for Hillary to lose the primary again.

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