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  • All lives

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Thread: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    How should the justice system have handled the Michael Brown shooting?
    "Black Lives Matter" is not just a response to the constant shooting of unarmed black men and women. It a sentiment from a minority in this country that is still by and large not liked by the majority.

    Many black people feel like there are in a country that doesn't want them, that seems to hate them, and see them as monsters. Many African Americans feel like that don't matter to the one race in this country that is pulling most of the strings here.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    So really it's not "black lives matter" it's "black lives only matter when whitey kills them".
    No, I don't think it does mean that. But if whitey has ended a black life because it was a black life, that adds another dimension and needs to be explored.

    I remember back to the dim, distant days of WAVAW (women against violence against women) - nobody was saying that violence against men is OK, however that was the criticism. The fact is there are specific issues around sexism and misogyny that need to be underlined at times, as is the case here with race.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    What annoys me about the "Black Lives Matter" people is that they only bring that out when a black person is killed by a white person (or a person who LOOKS white - Zimmerman). So really it's not "black lives matter" it's "black lives only matter when whitey kills them".
    Black criminals are always charged, found guilty, and then locked up. I doubt you have ever in your life bothered to explore a black community or their youth outreach programs - which address day by day black on black crime. So this mantra " Black people don't care about their own criminals" is a myopic and ignorant statement. They do care and with what little resources african americans have in their low income communities they do what they can to combat it.

    The issue is when a black man and woman, unarmed, is gunned down by a white cop and then nothing happens.

    The kid with a toy sword and the black man walking around with a toy gun in a store from which he got the toy gun from where both killed and no cops found guilty.

    Grand Jury Finds Officers' Actions Justified In Fatal Shooting Of Man Holding Air Rifle At Wal-Mart

    That sparks an outcry. It appears to some that black lives don't matter. Shoot em' dead first and ask questions later.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You've definitely missed the issue.

    People aren't outraged when a black person is killed. People are outraged when a black person is killed and the justice system is less effective in dealing with it.

    So drop your horse**** straw man arguments about different standards. People don't want different standards. Different standards are the problem.
    You don't know effective the system is at dealing with other situations because you only pay attention to one.

    Police kill more whites than blacks, but minority deaths generate more outrage: analysis - Washington Times

    FACTS: Cops Kill Whites at Almost Double The Rate That Cops Kill Blacks | LibertyNEWS.com

    You can find plenty of more articles with a quick google search. Police shoot people. People only care about black victims in these cases. Its not just black lives that matter.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Because the issue at hand is the lives of black people. .
    Then why don't other lives matter enough to warrant your "cause" to have concern?
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    It's to do with context. A white Zimbabwean farmer might be quite justified to demonstrate in downtown Harare with a sign saying "White lives matter" - but the context here was blacks being gunned down by white policeman. D'oh.
    And what about the white people gunned down by police officers? At even larger numbers? Is that ok? or is it wrong, but just not wrong enough for you to care?
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Black criminals are always charged, found guilty, and then locked up. I doubt you have ever in your life bothered to explore a black community or their youth outreach programs - which address day by day black on black crime. So this mantra " Black people don't care about their own criminals" is a myopic and ignorant statement. They do care and with what little resources african americans have in their low income communities they do what they can to combat it.

    The issue is when a black man and woman, unarmed, is gunned down by a white cop and then nothing happens.

    The kid with a toy sword and the black man walking around with a toy gun in a store from which he got the toy gun from where both killed and no cops found guilty.

    Grand Jury Finds Officers' Actions Justified In Fatal Shooting Of Man Holding Air Rifle At Wal-Mart

    That sparks an outcry. It appears to some that black lives don't matter. Shoot em' dead first and ask questions later.
    Do you happen to know how many people who are not black are gunned down by cops without charges? Do you think low income and poor white people have fountains of resources being rained down upon them? The issues you are attempting to bring up effect poverty stricken neighborhoods. Not black neighborhoods. Poverty is not just a black thing, and the poor being treated like **** is not a racial thing.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    And what about the white people gunned down by police officers? At even larger numbers? Is that ok? or is it wrong, but just not wrong enough for you to care?
    Your post is the most obtuse this year on DP. Gold star for that.

    Now find me the post where this white woman said white lives didn't matter enough for her to care about.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Seeing an avatar that says "black lives matter", let's just cut to the chase. Which lives matter? Don't be shy about it. Pick your team.
    I've said "all lives matter" since all this started. In my opinion, this is just another way to separate by color. I thought we'd gotten past that, but I guess we haven't.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I've said "all lives matter" since all this started. In my opinion, this is just another way to separate by color. I thought we'd gotten past that, but I guess we haven't.
    Exactly.


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