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  • Black lives

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  • Blue lives

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  • All lives

    42 76.36%
  • No lives - everyone sucks

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Thread: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Seeing an avatar that says "black lives matter", let's just cut to the chase. Which lives matter? Don't be shy about it. Pick your team.
    When someone says "black lives matter," you interpreted this as an implication that some other lives don't? That's interesting.

    Wrong. But interesting. Take your blue supremacist rants to another forum.

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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    When someone says "black lives matter," you interpreted this as an implication that some other lives don't? That's interesting.

    Wrong. But interesting.
    Why specify "black"? Why not just say "lives matter"? If you don't want separations then don't separate.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Why specify "black"? Why not just say "lives matter"? If you don't want separations then don't separate.
    Because if someone holds up a sign that says "all lives matter," you probably aren't going to understand the specific problem being highlighted. You'd probably just say "yep," rather than engaging on the actual issue.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Seeing an avatar that says "black lives matter", let's just cut to the chase. Which lives matter? Don't be shy about it. Pick your team.
    Saying black lives matter doesn't mean you don't believe other lives matter.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Because if someone holds up a sign that says "all lives matter," you probably aren't going to understand the specific problem being highlighted. You'd probably just say "yep," rather than engaging on the actual issue.
    What is the actual issue that saying Black Lives Matter really highlights? Because that does send a message that a large part of society seems to believe. If a black person is killed by a police officer people are outraged. If a white person is killed by an officer, almost noone bats an eye.

    So again I ask what problem is this movement is trying to highlight?

    Police officers using deadly force without warrant? Or black people should be held to a different standard and treated differently but killing other races is ok?
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Saying black lives matter doesn't mean you don't believe other lives matter.
    Then why specify black?
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    What is the actual issue that saying Black Lives Matter really highlights? Because that does send a message that a large part of society seems to believe. If a black person is killed by a police officer people are outraged. If a white person is killed by an officer, almost noone bats an eye.

    So again I ask what problem is this movement is trying to highlight?

    Police officers using deadly force without warrant? Or black people should be held to a different standard and treated differently but killing other races is ok?
    You've definitely missed the issue.

    People aren't outraged when a black person is killed. People are outraged when a black person is killed and the justice system is less effective in dealing with it.

    So drop your horse**** straw man arguments about different standards. People don't want different standards. Different standards are the problem.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Hmmm. I'm an "all lives matter" gal. BUT! Blue Lives deserve our strict attention. We simply must realize that cops are human beings, that they aren't perfect, that they make mistakes. There is a HUGE!! difference between a cop that acts in a depraved manner and one that makes a mistake. In our current witch hunt mindset, I think we've lost sight of that.
    Just as there is also a difference between a cop that acts crazy versus a system that trains an "us versus them" or "thin blue line" mentality where a result is that police will be more likely to use deadly force.

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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Then why specify black?
    Because the issue at hand is the lives of black people. .
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