View Poll Results: Which lives matter?

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  • Black lives

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  • Blue lives

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  • All lives

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  • No lives - everyone sucks

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Thread: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    His legs werent working.... Watch the video again. He was obviously injured when they tazerd him off of his bike.


    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    So no bruises, his legs not funcionting all the way before they arrested him = neck damage BEFORE they put him in. You can see his damn legs having trouble moving before they even put him in the van.
    Double D'oh!

    Watch the whole video. He stands on his own and ducks his head when he gets into the back of the van.

    You clearly have no clue as to what you speak.
    You should really try learning the evidence before trying to speak about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    They tazed the guy off of his bike for no crime.
    He wasn't on a bike, the police were.


    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    What do you think happens when a cop thinks its funny to speed up and slam on the breaks with someone in the back? Now what if that someone is laying on their belly, and their head slams into **** as the cops screech to a stop?

    Imagine if some bus driver forced your kid to lay down in the bus aisle. Then sped up to 60 miles an hour. Then slammed on their brakes sending your kid flying headfirst into the front of the bus. But it isnt your kid so you dont care.
    You are making crap up to believe.
    There is no indication that occurred. And his injuries matched up with a bolt in the rear. Not the front.


    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    What we have is cops totally disreguarding his safety even though this man had zero voilent crimes. They tazerd him off of his bike when he had commited no crime. Then threw him in, belly first, with no way of him saving himself because he had his arms behind his back and feet shackled together. We all know they rough rided him but they picked the wrong guy to do it to. and he ended up dying. They thought he was lying about his injuries and pretending, but he wasnt. Because some cops dont care about ghetto people. They see them as lying rats.
    Yep. You clearly know not of what you speak.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    While this poll could easily be viewed as an in-road to race bait, I think the issue it raises is very relevant.

    It's unfortunate that some posters don't quite understand the context behind the slogan "Black Lives Matter" and, as such, choose to marginalize it rather than attempt to understand the underlying message. To that, reinoe, Zinthaniel and Urethra Franklin explain the meaning behind the message so well, their words deserve repeating:

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    My primary concern has always been the lack of accountability. When I make a mistake at work, there is accountability. When someone at McDonald's makes a mistake there is accountability. When a cop makes a mistake there's no accountability if there's nothing caught on camera or there are no witnesses. Many people who reflexively defend cops seem to ignore that cops are government agents. I can't wrap my mind around why someone would be comfortable with government agents making mistakes and then facing no accountability. Why do teenagers who work in fast food have higher standards of accountability than government agents who use deadly force? That does not make sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    "Black Lives Matter" is not just a response to the constant shooting of unarmed black men and women. It a sentiment from a minority in this country that is still by and large not liked by the majority.

    Many black people feel like there are in a country that doesn't want them, that seems to hate them, and see them as monsters. Many African Americans feel like that don't matter to the one race in this country that is pulling most of the strings here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Josie
    So really it's not "black lives matter" it's "black lives only matter when whitey kills them".
    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    No, I don't think it does mean that. But if whitey has ended a black life because it was a black life, that adds another dimension and needs to be explored.
    There's a reason Black people are so upset at local police these days. The perception is that police are shooting Black people first and asking questions later. It's not so much that we don't care about life itself no matter whose life is lost including Black people. It's the perception that ALL Black people are inherently violent and, as such, WE ALL pose a threat to society. Now, you could say cops react the way they do towards Blacks because of appearances (i.e., sagging pants) and/or attitudes (i.e., refusing to show proper ID when asked), but it's more than that.

    Many Black people view police as a threat due to the history White cops have in their dealings with Blacks. This comes from White police officers historically abusing their power of authority when it comes to their approach to Black people. There doesn't seem to be this "self-protection at first sight" attitude from some cops when they approach White people except when the threat is obvious (i.e., car theft, high speed chase that results in a stop, convenient store robbery). But what we're seeing as portrayed in the media is cops take a harsher, more "self-preservation" approach the moment they realize they're dealing with a Black suspect no matter what the situation, whereas, with a White suspect unless they're told by dispatch that the suspect is or may be armed and dangerous, they don't necessarily enter the situation with guns blazing. And that's the problem here...a constant negative perception by (White) police that because the suspect is Black he/she is automatically dangerous.

    Now, just as racism is geographical when it's just plain White people -vs- Black people, the same holds true with prevailing attitudes with White cops when dealing with Black people. It's as if their anxiety level is automatically kicked into over-drive by the mere mention of the word "Black". And truth be told, in some areas around the county there's good reason for it. But that doesn't mean that a Black man should be shot at a gas station when asked by police to get his ID from the glove box, or a Black kid deserved to be shot to death when it was obvious he held a toy gun in his hands, or a Black homeless person deserved to be beaten and shot because he wouldn't (and couldn't) respond to the police officer's questions, or a that a Black man should lose his life over a single cigarette when all he was doing was exercising his freedom of speech verbally defending himself or a young Black man should be shot in the back while attempting to flee the scene unarmed or a young Black man should die from his injuries while in police custody allegedly from neglect.

    (Continued...)
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 05-29-15 at 09:10 PM.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    If you want to blame this Black lives "awareness" on media bias, go right ahead. Because those who say White people die at the hand of cops, too, would be correct. But one has to wonder if their deaths where all justified because they actually did something wrong, whereas, in some of the cases where Black people have lost their lives there is no justification for it. Cops killed Black people and their murders where swept under the rug. And that's what has brough all of this to a head - NO ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE PART OF THE POLICE when a Black person loses their lives in what can only be seen as abuse of power and authority.

    So, yes, Black lives do matter...when they are taken unjustly by rouge police officers who hide behind their badges knowing they have a grand jury behind them as cover for their unjust acts.
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 05-29-15 at 09:24 PM.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

                


    Just more bs and crying wolf.

    Regular folks can see that a majority of claims are baseless exaggeration.
    The cases they have recently chosen, such as Brown just confirms the outrage is crying wolf and just harms the chances of real situations being given proper attention.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    If you want to blame this Black lives "awareness" on media bias, go right ahead. Because those who say White people die at the hand of cops, too, would be correct. But one has to wonder if their deaths where all justified because they actually did something wrong, whereas, in some of the cases where Black people have lost their lives there is no justification for it. Cops killed Black people and their murders where swept under the rug. And that's what has brough all of this to a head - NO ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE PART OF THE POLICE when a Black person loses their lives in what can only be seen as abuse of power and authority.

    So, yes, Black lives do matter...when they are taken unjustly by rouge police officers who hide behind their badges knowing they have a grand jury behind them as cover for their unjust acts.
    LEOs that cross the line should be prosecuted and sent to jail as appropriate or fired if appropriate. Or, obviously, BOTH.

    But for heaven's sake, save your (not you, the collective you) outrage for the real thing. And no looting. Ya'all just look like thugs and run of the mill thieves.

    There is absolutely not a shred of credible evidence that "Hands up. Don't shoot," ever happened. Yet the mantra will make its way into the urban dictionary.

    It isn't lost on most of us that attempts to paint all LEOs with the same brush is no better than the treatment they're protesting.


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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    LEOs that cross the line should be prosecuted and sent to jail as appropriate or fired if appropriate. Or, obviously, BOTH.

    But for heaven's sake, save your (not you, the collective you) outrage for the real thing. And no looting. Ya'all just look like thugs and run of the mill thieves.

    There is absolutely not a shred of credible evidence that "Hands up. Don't shoot," ever happened. Yet the mantra will make its way into the urban dictionary.

    It isn't lost on most of us that attempts to paint all LEOs with the same brush is no better than the treatment they're protesting.
    One city changed it's law enforcement practices following those riots. Of course, they are experiencing an average of more than one murder per day, and that's just the murder stats. Who knows about the rest of the crimes.

    Murder capital: Baltimore
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
                


    Just more bs and crying wolf.

    Regular folks can see that a majority of claims are baseless exaggeration.
    The cases they have recently chosen, such as Brown just confirms the outrage is crying wolf and just harms the chances of real situations being given proper attention.
    Actually the ones who are clinging to "recently chosen" cases are yourself. Despite the fact that the Brown decision was almost nine months ago and there have been a large number of recent incidents which are much less ambiguous to choose from (which in itself is a problem) means you're being selective in which cases you're addressing.

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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Actually the ones who are clinging to "recently chosen" cases are yourself. Despite the fact that the Brown decision was almost nine months ago and there have been a large number of recent incidents which are much less ambiguous to choose from (which in itself is a problem) means you're being selective in which cases you're addressing.

    Wrong.
    The Brown incident was the initial catalyst.
    Secondly, there have been no "large number" of recent incidents that are much less ambiguous as you falsely claim.
    It is the same old nonsense of exaggerated bs to cry wolf.
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    Re: Black Lives, Blue Lives or Something Else. Which lives matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Seeing an avatar that says "black lives matter", let's just cut to the chase. Which lives matter? Don't be shy about it. Pick your team.
    All of them.

    WTF kind of question is this?
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