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Can A Nation Tax Itself Into Prosperity?

Can a nation tax its way to prosperity?


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Consider the following quote from Winston Churchill:
"We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."​

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The Space program, the Internet, the Eisenhower Interstate Highway system, the TVA, represent a few success stories of tax monies well-spent. The USA could have spent tax dollars developing breakout technologies in Renewable Energy and Global Warming mitigation technologies instead of spending more on Military Defense (OFFENSE). The USA could have developed a small-farm infrastructure instead of Corporate Farms. Central Distribution of Energies could have been replaced with Distributed Energies. Just a few items to identify how tax monies could be spent wisely instead of fattening the coffers of the already wealthy, influential, corrupt, entrenched oligarchy.
 
Consider the following quote from Winston Churchill:
"We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."​

Yes

No

Other

If the taxes go to infrastructure that promotes a strong economy and a healthy, educated workforce, absolutely. If it goes to stupid bull**** like the War on Drugs or Ten Commandment court statues, then no, of course not.
 
That's not, however, what liberals have in mind when they talk of raising taxes. With liberals, it's all wealth redistribution and making life easier for the poor and lazy.
That's not true at all. It might suprise you that one of our most liberal Senators Bernie Sanders wants to spend money to update our infrastructure

Actually it is true, last Friday your man Bernie was rather explicit on Bill Maher about wanted to redistribute wealth. At the 5:33 mark "So yes, I do want to redistribute that wealth."
 
Actually it is true, last Friday your man Bernie was rather explicit on Bill Maher about wanted to redistribute wealth. At the 5:33 mark "So yes, I do want to redistribute that wealth."


Listen to what he says at the 1:25 mark. ;)
 
If by my post you mean your post, then sure.


Glad you admit and recognize you posted irrelevant data that didn't support your original claims.

Not sure WHY you would do that, but it does save a lot of time.
 
Thanks for admitting defeat.
 
you posted it to make your point.

The numbers matched? Or are you wrong?

Picking another option is admission of defeat. I dare you to admit defeat.
 
Consider the following quote from Winston Churchill:
"We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."​

Yes

No

Other
As I recall, Churchill was never an economist; so we do we even listen to this fool ?
 
Seriously? That's your angle here? There isn't a conservative around, including Churchill, who's against taxation used to build and maintain infrastructure and on research and development. That's not, however, what liberals have in mind when they talk of raising taxes. With liberals, it's all wealth redistribution and making life easier for the poor and lazy.

Yep. Like that socialist health care your country has.
 
Yep. Like that socialist health care your country has.

You may believe we have socialist healthcare, and that's fine - it's a good quip. After a few years on this site, it's perfectly clear that Americans haven't much of a clue what Canada's healthcare system is about and what it does or doesn't cover and what direction it's moving in.
 
You may believe we have socialist healthcare, and that's fine - it's a good quip. After a few years on this site, it's perfectly clear that Americans haven't much of a clue what Canada's healthcare system is about and what it does or doesn't cover and what direction it's moving in.

LOL. I guess canadian conservatism is equal to american socialism.
 
who's against taxation used to build and maintain infrastructure and on research and development.....

With liberals, it's all wealth redistribution.......
Oh my....are you arguing that works projects do not have redistributive aspects?
 
Good for Bernie Sanders - now, what part of the bloated federal budget does the good Senator want to reduce or displace in order to up the capital improvements he wants to promote?
But just a moment ago you said:

There isn't a conservative around, including Churchill, who's against taxation used to build and maintain infrastructure and on research and development.

Why has the requirement suddenly changed from taxation to cuts in other programs?
 
Isn't that what Greece tried to do?

No, not at all.

The Greek financial crisis was a result of unwise financial and spending policies, coupled with the fact that the country is incapable of paying its debt due to the fact that the duopolistic rule of PASOK and ND has lead to widespread nepotism and clientelism to the extent that tax evasion is at an all time high in the country and no one is doing anything about it, and random friends of past governments are getting unjustified subsidies and tax cuts.
 
It's not about taxing. It's about investing in the population. Treating the people like something to build up, rather than exploit. That costs taxes, but they pay off. A lot.
 
Wrong again, but keep trying. Eventually, you might luck into one cogent comment worth considering.

I find it amusing that a Canadian is comparing about welfare in american when he supports the holy grail of socialism: Single payer healthcare. That is a line that no american liberal has tried to cross yet. I personally hope we get socialist style healthcare like you support instead of romney-republican national healthcare law we have now. Like it or not you are a socialist.
 
But just a moment ago you said:

There isn't a conservative around, including Churchill, who's against taxation used to build and maintain infrastructure and on research and development.

Why has the requirement suddenly changed from taxation to cuts in other programs?

Even you should be able to figure out that there's plenty of tax dollars already collected to fund all the infrastructure and research and development needed today and for years to come. Unfortunately, politicians like to give handouts and like to waste money on pet projects rather than spend taxpayer dollars wisely on the core functions of government.

How much is collected from taxpayers from gas taxes, tolls, driver and car licensing, traffic fines/penalties, etc.? Then tell us how much of that is actually spent on maintaining roads and bridges and not just flushed down the general revenues toilet.
 
I find it amusing that a Canadian is comparing about welfare in american when he supports the holy grail of socialism: Single payer healthcare. That is a line that no american liberal has tried to cross yet. I personally hope we get socialist style healthcare like you support instead of romney-republican national healthcare law we have now. Like it or not you are a socialist.

I'll grant you're consistent - consistently wrong, but consistent. And just to be clear, I don't believe I made any comments about "welfare in america". Perhaps you could point them out to me. I did talk about what conservatives generally support by way of use for taxation. Is that what got your panties in a twist?
 
Consider the following quote from Winston Churchill:
"We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."​

Yes

No

Other

You cannot. You need prosperity first, and from there you can tax to and create various government program.
 
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