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    Re: Can A Nation Tax Itself Into Prosperity?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    who's against taxation used to build and maintain infrastructure and on research and development.....

    With liberals, it's all wealth redistribution.......
    Oh my....are you arguing that works projects do not have redistributive aspects?
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    Re: Can A Nation Tax Itself Into Prosperity?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good for Bernie Sanders - now, what part of the bloated federal budget does the good Senator want to reduce or displace in order to up the capital improvements he wants to promote?
    But just a moment ago you said:

    There isn't a conservative around, including Churchill, who's against taxation used to build and maintain infrastructure and on research and development.

    Why has the requirement suddenly changed from taxation to cuts in other programs?
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Can A Nation Tax Itself Into Prosperity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Isn't that what Greece tried to do?
    No, not at all.

    The Greek financial crisis was a result of unwise financial and spending policies, coupled with the fact that the country is incapable of paying its debt due to the fact that the duopolistic rule of PASOK and ND has lead to widespread nepotism and clientelism to the extent that tax evasion is at an all time high in the country and no one is doing anything about it, and random friends of past governments are getting unjustified subsidies and tax cuts.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: Can A Nation Tax Itself Into Prosperity?

    It's not about taxing. It's about investing in the population. Treating the people like something to build up, rather than exploit. That costs taxes, but they pay off. A lot.
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    Re: Can A Nation Tax Itself Into Prosperity?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Wrong again, but keep trying. Eventually, you might luck into one cogent comment worth considering.
    I find it amusing that a Canadian is comparing about welfare in american when he supports the holy grail of socialism: Single payer healthcare. That is a line that no american liberal has tried to cross yet. I personally hope we get socialist style healthcare like you support instead of romney-republican national healthcare law we have now. Like it or not you are a socialist.
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    Re: Can A Nation Tax Itself Into Prosperity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Oh my....are you arguing that works projects do not have redistributive aspects?
    I don't remember suggesting anything to you.
    A Canadian conservative is one who believes in limited government and that the government should stay out of our wallets and out of our bedrooms.

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    Re: Can A Nation Tax Itself Into Prosperity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    But just a moment ago you said:

    There isn't a conservative around, including Churchill, who's against taxation used to build and maintain infrastructure and on research and development.

    Why has the requirement suddenly changed from taxation to cuts in other programs?
    Even you should be able to figure out that there's plenty of tax dollars already collected to fund all the infrastructure and research and development needed today and for years to come. Unfortunately, politicians like to give handouts and like to waste money on pet projects rather than spend taxpayer dollars wisely on the core functions of government.

    How much is collected from taxpayers from gas taxes, tolls, driver and car licensing, traffic fines/penalties, etc.? Then tell us how much of that is actually spent on maintaining roads and bridges and not just flushed down the general revenues toilet.
    A Canadian conservative is one who believes in limited government and that the government should stay out of our wallets and out of our bedrooms.

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    Re: Can A Nation Tax Itself Into Prosperity?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    I find it amusing that a Canadian is comparing about welfare in american when he supports the holy grail of socialism: Single payer healthcare. That is a line that no american liberal has tried to cross yet. I personally hope we get socialist style healthcare like you support instead of romney-republican national healthcare law we have now. Like it or not you are a socialist.
    I'll grant you're consistent - consistently wrong, but consistent. And just to be clear, I don't believe I made any comments about "welfare in america". Perhaps you could point them out to me. I did talk about what conservatives generally support by way of use for taxation. Is that what got your panties in a twist?
    A Canadian conservative is one who believes in limited government and that the government should stay out of our wallets and out of our bedrooms.

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    Re: Can A Nation Tax Itself Into Prosperity?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't remember suggesting anything to you.
    I never said you did. Your methods of avoiding a point about your contradictions are getting creative.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Can A Nation Tax Itself Into Prosperity?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Consider the following quote from Winston Churchill:
    "We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."

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    You cannot. You need prosperity first, and from there you can tax to and create various government program.
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