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Thread: Higher or lower taxes?

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    Re: Higher or lower taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well that proves you are ignorant of history
    So you think in 1861 the United States was (almost) the world power?

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    Re: Higher or lower taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    So you think in 1861 the United States was (almost) the world power?
    by 1900 it was and that was before the odious 16th amendment was passed.
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    Re: Higher or lower taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    by 1900 it was and that was before the odious 16th amendment was passed.
    Ignoring the claim about "by 1900" (I disagree)



    Good thing the 16th amendment was the first time we had income tax.

    Ooops. It wasn't.

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    Re: Higher or lower taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Ignoring the claim about "by 1900" (I disagree)



    Good thing the 16th amendment was the first time we had income tax.

    Ooops. It wasn't.
    it was the first time it caused a nationwide progressive income tax to survive court challenges and be established permanently. the main push for the income tax actually came from the anti drinking fanatics
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    Re: Higher or lower taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConsvLiberal View Post
    After the election in 2016: Do we need higher or lower taxes?
    We need to scrap the whole system and start over. I favor consumption taxes with prebates for necessities.
    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." Attributed to Alexander Tytler

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    Re: Higher or lower taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    If you spent literally ZERO federal dollars, it would take at least 5 years to pay off our debt at current tax/revenue loads.
    Seeing how we need things like national defense and infastructure that would be impossible.


    Which begs the question, why does the debt NEED to be paid off?
    Because every time we go further into debt the value of our dollar decreases.That means it is pointless to save. What happens should those loaning us money stop lending and demand we pay them back, are we just going to tell them to piss off and then be royally screwed the next time a major emergency comes up and no one loans us money?
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    Re: Higher or lower taxes?

    I do not vote on polls where there is also an indication of left leaning and right leaning. However, the question itself is a no brainer. The wealthiest countries in the world are those where most taxes are paid. So let the taxes go up. And it is a shame this this is being used during elections to get votes.

    Joey

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    Re: Higher or lower taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Good thing the 16th amendment was the first time we had income tax.
    An "income tax" existed from 1862 to about 1870 to support the war effort, so you're right in a technical sense.

    Either way, you haven't demonstrated how the existence or absence of an income tax is inherently linked to prosperity. Your attempt to do so is a case of correlation not implying causation. Ingenuity, creativity, strong work ethic, and environments conducive to innovation (sound fiscal policies) are what result in prosperity, seeing as those are the attributes and conditions which lead to technological advancement and privilege strategic thinking.

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    Re: Higher or lower taxes?

    We need to get rid of regressive taxation.

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    Re: Higher or lower taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    We need to get rid of regressive taxation.
    why? life is regressive
    so is the marketplace.
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