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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Take a look at the recent election in Ireland.

    No one can stop time and/or change.
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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    there's nothing I do or say to help you understand...you've got it all figured out.
    Its not that difficult. Do you actually believe that the Repubs ever truly intended or wanted to repeal Obamacare? I hope that you arent' that gullible.

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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    which also points to a confirmation bias within the liberal dominated social sciences
    Why is that automatically biased against conservatives? The same people have also studied liberals and noted strengths and weaknesses. Conservatives look for strong leaders and produce stronger leaders in comparison to Liberal parties. Liberals are less susceptible to confirmation bias and will change, update, and abandon opinions more easily than conservatives, and that is typically perceived as a character weakness. Authoritarian Conservatives view a Liberals admittance to wrong as a weakness. It goes back to their belief in absolute right and wrong, and obviously, they think they are absolutely right.

    If you read into the studies, it helps make sense of the world. It helps us understand why things work the way they do. I don't believe social sciences are a vehicle used to pick on conservatives and manipulate facts to prove liberals right.

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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Christian people of color are socially conservative for the most part. So, as usual, libs must lie to forward their agenda. I'm sure that makes you all feel warm and fuzzy inside.
    Lame response.
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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    The indoctrination is moving along swimmingly. Yay? Thank the stars our kids are being brainwashed into believing every abhorrent modern lib ideal under the sun. <wretch>

    Why I firmly believe it is permanent is due to the legal ramifications of gay marriage and states legalizing weed such as in Colorado. You can't turn back the courts. You can't establish legality and legal legitimacy then undo it. Law doesn't work that way. You've already created legal economies such as in Colorado, such as in states with gay marriage, where those legal economies will be almost impossible to undo as they become more tiered and stable. Anti-weed Colorado legislators have already said it's now impossible for weed to ever be illegal in Colorado and that the vote of legalization would always pass now in that state if not solely for economic and tax reasons. The same is true of gay marriage in states where it's legal.

    You can't "undo legalized social liberalism" from the very mouths of defeated social conservatives in said states and that's precisely why social liberalism is here to stay in my view.

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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Christian people of color are socially conservative for the most part.
    So, as usual, libs must lie to forward their agenda. I'm sure that makes you all feel warm and fuzzy inside.


    Come back and tell us all about that about 30 years from now after the massive demographic change that's coming at the GOP hits full force like a tidal wave and reduces the GOP to a minor, regional, party.

    The clock is ticking.




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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Why is that automatically biased against conservatives? The same people have also studied liberals and noted strengths and weaknesses. Conservatives look for strong leaders and produce stronger leaders in comparison to Liberal parties. Liberals are less susceptible to confirmation bias and will change, update, and abandon opinions more easily than conservatives, and that is typically perceived as a character weakness. Authoritarian Conservatives view a Liberals admittance to wrong as a weakness. It goes back to their belief in absolute right and wrong, and obviously, they think they are absolutely right.

    If you read into the studies, it helps make sense of the world. It helps us understand why things work the way they do. I don't believe social sciences are a vehicle used to pick on conservatives and manipulate facts to prove liberals right.
    it's automatically biased against conservatives because the entire field of study is stocked with liberals... literally.


    I've read a few studies before.... they read as a bunch of liberals concocting the many ways they feel conservatives are inferior people or somehow inherently flawed, without fail.
    (thank god they don't do many studies on libertarians....no telling how many ways liberals feel we are inferior or somehow inherently flawed.)

    when you formulate a closely held tribal-moral cult with a set of sacred values...you'll not find much disagreement, and you'll certain find confirmation bias abounding.

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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Come back and tell us all about that about 30 years from now after the massive demographic change that's coming at the GOP hits full force like a tidal wave and reduces the GOP to a minor, regional, party.

    The clock is ticking.




    "Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
    personally, I'd be surprised if any white people remain Democratic voters in 30 years time...the party rhetoric is already causing "white flight", and there's no signs that the party cares or has plans to tone it down.

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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    personally, I'd be surprised if any white people remain Democratic voters in 30 years time...the party rhetoric is already causing "white flight", and there's no signs that the party cares or has plans to tone it down.
    Yep. They've pretty much made the entire party far left fringe fruit loops - actual liberals and Democrats who are moderate will either go independent or find a new home in left of center libertarianism.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    it's automatically biased against conservatives because the entire field of study is stocked with liberals... literally.


    I've read a few studies before.... they read as a bunch of liberals concocting the many ways they feel conservatives are inferior people or somehow inherently flawed, without fail.
    (thank god they don't do many studies on libertarians....no telling how many ways liberals feel we are inferior or somehow inherently flawed.)

    when you formulate a closely held tribal-moral cult with a set of sacred values...you'll not find much disagreement, and you'll certain find confirmation bias abounding.
    I think the studies have an insight, but it's incredibly limited. Many times they read like early 20th century cultural anthropologies, looking at their research subjects with a sense of bewilderment when coming into contact with savages.

    The idea that liberals are less subject to confirmation bias and are more willing to change opinions based on evidence is pretty laughable. They are human beings, regardless of their liberal superpowers. It's not as if intellectual history hasn't shown dogma to be pervasive in all ideological designations.

    Furthermore, I think taking the social sciences with universal authority is a massive mistake. Researchers, though they have data, can and have fashioned the framework in such a manner as to bias the conversation. Much of this is incredibly innocuous, because they use experience and intuition to guide their research. However, I have discovered peering through forty years of educational research, professional and ideological biases easily crept through.
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