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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    There has been a fair amount of scientific and psychological studies on the issue. Social conservative, authoritarianism types see issues in terms of black and white and absolute wrong and absolute right. They are uncomfortable with ambiguity and have difficultly discussing and recognizing areas of grey. They want the government to endorse the absolute right behavior, and remove freedom and rights to engage in (what they consider) absolute wrong behavior.
    which also points to a confirmation bias within the liberal dominated social sciences

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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    So called "social liberalism", i.e., authoritarian government telling people how to run their lives, is, thankfully, on the way in. Yes, that is sooooo much better.

    Good grief, how can people be sooooo damned oblivious? It truly boggles the mind.
    So, you think it's not so much on its way out as it is shifting from the right wing to the left wing?

    not sure why anyone would think that. It seems to me that authoritarianism is a part of both "wings".
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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....seriously? THAT isn't capitulation to the libs....that was just a flat out lie by the GOP that anyone with half a clue found from the start. The GOP was never going to repeal Obamacare...they simply used it as a political ploy. Do you honestly believe that the GOP just gave in and capitulated? That could have repealed and replaced once they gained the senate. The fact that they didn't just exposed their lies and hypocrisy.
    horsehockey.... "repeal and replace" cannot happen when we have the President who came up with it still in office, and enough Democrats in the Senate to support his veto.

    as time goes on, there's a much less of a chance they will even try though.... .once you hand candy to a baby , it's gets pretty ugly trying to take it away.... unless it's better candy.

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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, you think it's not so much on its way out as it is shifting from the right wing to the left wing?

    not sure why anyone would think that. It seems to me that authoritarianism is a part of both "wings".
    you're right... it's part and parcel of both wings.

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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That's true to a point....but it didn't really get politicized until the 80's when the right-wing saw it as a tool to push their agenda. They learned about using it as a wedge to have more political clout in elections. It really hadn't been used in that form previously.
    You're dreaming.

    It's been used forever, but the backdrop changed.

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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    horsehockey.... "repeal and replace" cannot happen when we have the President who came up with it still in office, and enough Democrats in the Senate to support his veto.

    as time goes on, there's a much less of a chance they will even try though.... .once you hand candy to a baby , it's gets pretty ugly trying to take it away.... unless it's better candy.
    They didn't even try.....sorry. It was a lie from the start. Anyone who believed the GOP was going to follow through was completely gullible.
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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    They didn't even try.....sorry. It was a lie from the start. Anyone who believed the GOP was going to follow through was completely gullible.
    why would they even try?...

    even my dog knows there was a less than 0% chance of success.

    why do you believe otherwise?

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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    why would they even try?...

    even my dog knows there was a less than 0% chance of success.

    why do you believe otherwise?
    Why did they engage in 100's of half-hearted attempts before they gained control of the Senate? They played the gullible electorate like the fools that they are. The GOP never really wanted to repeal and replace Obamacare....it was political fodder for them. If they really had wanted to, don't you think they would have at least came up with a plan of their own? DOH!
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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Why did they engage in 100's of half-hearted attempts before they gained control of the Senate? They played the gullible electorate like the fools that they are. The GOP never really wanted to repeal and replace Obamacare....it was political fodder for them. If they really had wanted to, don't you think they would have at least came up with a plan of their own? DOH!
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    Re: Is American Social Conservatism on a Permanent Decline?

    Well if you look at demographics it goes both ways. I think the issue of gay marriage will kind of fade and people will drop that one. Stuff such as strong marriages, abortion, drugs (specifically weed) etc, that is the kind of stuff that a Republican could use towards minorities and younger demographics.

    Younger demographics want strong marriages when they happen, people don't get married as often anymore but when they do, they want it to last. They also understand that if the family can be together or at least, both parents are good parents that that is a huge thing that needs to be rewarded.

    Abortion is a horrible thing that I think both sides talk to casually about but conservatives have a chance to make that issue work in there favor with non-white demographics.

    Marijuana is an issue where Republicans and Democrats could potentially come together and create taxes that benefit everyone. It's an issue that Democrats dance around and really only libertarian Republicans touch on. Republicans could easily own the issue.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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