View Poll Results: Was Ronald Reagan the best President of the all times?

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    No, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington and Franklin Roosevelt rank above him.
    I would put Reagan in the top 10
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    I'd put him somewhere around the middle. Abe Lincoln is #1, Obama will end up around the middle and G.W. Bush will end up mighty close to the bottom.

    Start learning about historical rankings of U.S. Presidents here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histori..._United_States

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    I mean as far as presidents go he was pretty good even though I'm not on the same side of the political spectrum as he was, but best in history? not even close.

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    I would not say "best". Maybe lower Top 10-ish.

    His positives: He was a leader and we desperately needed a leader at that time. It was ok to be an American again. I wasn't thrilled by his deficit spending, but I understood it had a purpose in that it helped us regain prominence in the world and I believe helped hasten the end of the cold war*. Unlike today, where people like Dick "Reagan proved deficits don't matter" Cheney (and others) completely missed the point and saw it (deficit spending) as a positive political tool.

    These were reasons I would have put him in the Top 5 when he first left office. Someone else mentioned that his star fades with time, and that is true with me, because...

    His negatives: I didn't recognize these right away, but I do now and they have to factor in. Reagan was by no means the first President to threaten individual rights, but he's the one who greatly accelerated the concept more than any other, and as a matter of conscious policy. Things like the militarization of police, civil asset forfeiture (CAF), the so-called "War on Drugs", and so on. His policies in these areas are/were repugnant and are a great reason why things are so screwed up today.

    Anyone here who has paid attention knows that things like CAF are my pet issues, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that these taint Reagan's legacy in my eyes. I still think he was a good President overall, and like I said had some aspects we desperately needed at the time, but some of his other policies have had far-reaching effects that are not good at all.

    *-Would have happened eventually anyway, but not as quickly, and probably not as cleanly.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    First, the collapse of the Soviet Union didn't "win" anything. That we were ever having such a conflict in the first place means we lost. That's a game you don't win. Second, his "strategy" was to be in a country with solid industry, agriculture, and resources, and two centuries under a single government, instead of being a revolutionary state, with some of its founders still alive, without that infrastructure or resources. That's geography, not strategy. The Soviet Union was doomed the moment it tried to be a world power without being able to support such an endeavor. Who was sitting in the white house made zero difference.



    Oh good, propaganda. No point in continuing if you don't know or accept basic facts. We have some of the least economic mobility of any industrialized nation in the world. Almost everyone's economic class is inherited. And almost all the movement is down.



    Hence why capitalism is only a little bit better than the feudal aristocracies of yesteryear, and it needs to go the way of the dinosaurs to something focused on the people as whole. We don't need aristocrats, whether they're granted titles of nobility or merely own everything.



    It's amazing how much geopolitics and history conservatives have to make up in order to justify this hatred of Obama.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm Canadian, so my view is discounted, but for me Reagan was a great President because he was exactly what America needed at the time. If you'll recall, Reagan came along following the resignation in disgrace of Nixon, the pardon and mediocrity of Ford, and the difficult economic and foreign relations times of Carter, topped off with oil shortages and a failed rescue mission to free the American hostages in Iran. America was collectively depressed and in the dumps and Reagan took America by the scruff of the neck and lifted it up, demanding that Americans have pride in their country and believe that better times were just ahead. There is an incredible and special value to a man who can kick an entire nation in the ass and wake it up from the doldrums.

    But was he the best President ever - I doubt that - but he was damn good and a blessing to America at the time.
    This is what I was trying to convey, but you said it better.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    To me, he was a conservative that did not stick to his guns, and bent under pressure to allow things that he was totally against in principle.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Not everything Reagan did in his foreign policy was a success.. Lebanon. Iran Contra. He ended up arming many we are fighting today.

    But IMO his negotiations with the USSR were very good, I give him a lot of credit that. Funny thing about that though was many conservatives and Republicans sharply criticized Reagan back then for talking to and negotiating with the USSR. Some accused him of appeasement. Does that sound familiar?
    Many opposing countries at the time feared that he meant what he said when he talked tough, and yet it's interesting to note that (except for Grenada) he actually did relatively little in direct action.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConsvLiberal View Post
    In 1984 Ronald Reagan got the best result in history of the United Staates Of America. The Reaganomics were popular all around the world. Do you think that he was the greatest President of the United States?
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    To me, he was a conservative that did not stick to his guns, and bent under pressure to allow things that he was totally against in principle.
    Realistically, in our type of society and system, how can anybody... regardless of lean... fully "stick to their guns" and still get anything done?
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConsvLiberal View Post
    In 1984 Ronald Reagan got the best result in history of the United Staates Of America. The Reaganomics were popular all around the world. Do you think that he was the greatest President of the United States?
    Absolutely not. He ran the country's unemployment up to over 10%. He led the closing of the trades and a paradigm shift over to Wall Street that led directly to the crash of 2008. The man was the 1%'s thug.
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