View Poll Results: Was Ronald Reagan the best President of the all times?

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I think he's one of those few Presidents that looks worse over time instead of better. I think it's pretty plain to see now that his destructive economic policies (Reaganomics) are the root cause of all of the problems we face today, including the wealth gap.
    and when you add in his elimination of the fairness doctrine which resulted in the 24/7 domination of the airwaves and his viciously anti-union policies which gutted the ability of working stiffs to a fair shake, I would go so far as to say that this class warfare was quite by design. It may have not been HIS idea, necessarily, as it was the result of Heritage think tank machinations, but it certainly had quite the destructive effect on the notion that America's greatness lied in it being a middle class country.

    The great Teddy Roosevelt took on the robber barons. Reagan ushered in a new era for them.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConsvLiberal View Post
    In 1984 Ronald Reagan got the best result in history of the United Staates Of America. The Reaganomics were popular all around the world. Do you think that he was the greatest President of the United States?
    Reagan the tax raiser?

    Reagan the big spender?

    Reagan the appeaser of terrorists?

    That Reagan?
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    This may come as a surprise to you but the rich (and talented) have the habit of making themselves richer. They don't need a President or a government for that.
    But it certainly helps.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Perhaps war in Lebanon would have been more appropriate. What would you have done?
    I would not have sent such a limited force to begin with. It was a blunder that cost 241 American lives. It makes the fuss about Benghazi look even more foolish.

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    President "My heart wants to believe I didn't lie to the American people but that facts say otherwise" Reagan? The man who sat back and didn't lift a finger while AIDS grew into an epidemic? The man who cut all funding for mental health services and created, in large part, the homeless problem all across America? The man who saw the largest reduction in manufacturing jobs and outsourcing of jobs overseas in this country's history?Uh....not even close.

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I would not have sent such a limited force to begin with. It was a blunder that cost 241 American lives. It makes the fuss about Benghazi look even more foolish.
    I asked you what an appropriate response would have been in your estimation.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Reagan: "“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

    And the proof continues today...
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I think you are wrong on both counts, though, as an economist I can really only speak for the economy with any certainty. But the strategy he employed was consistent with bringing down the Soviet and so.....
    First, the collapse of the Soviet Union didn't "win" anything. That we were ever having such a conflict in the first place means we lost. That's a game you don't win. Second, his "strategy" was to be in a country with solid industry, agriculture, and resources, and two centuries under a single government, instead of being a revolutionary state, with some of its founders still alive, without that infrastructure or resources. That's geography, not strategy. The Soviet Union was doomed the moment it tried to be a world power without being able to support such an endeavor. Who was sitting in the white house made zero difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Actually only a minority of the really very rich people inherited their wealth. That being said, unlike you I don't feel that being rich is in and of itself a sin.
    Oh good, propaganda. No point in continuing if you don't know or accept basic facts. We have some of the least economic mobility of any industrialized nation in the world. Almost everyone's economic class is inherited. And almost all the movement is down.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    In capitalism supply side is the only side.
    Hence why capitalism is only a little bit better than the feudal aristocracies of yesteryear, and it needs to go the way of the dinosaurs to something focused on the people as whole. We don't need aristocrats, whether they're granted titles of nobility or merely own everything.

    The cold war was over until a very weak administration allowed lesser powers to restart it. Smart foreign policy understands the proper use of power, both politically and economically. The last seven years have been a text book lesson in what not to do with power.
    It's amazing how much geopolitics and history conservatives have to make up in order to justify this hatred of Obama.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    If that's the case why are the 1% so afraid of paying taxes?
    Silly premise. Why pay taxes if you can arrange it so you don't have to?

    Yes, *I* think they should, and I favor a true flat tax so they would, but at the same time I can't fault somebody for working it out so they don't pay taxes if the system allows them to do so. If anything, that's smart, and the people who constantly whine about it come off as jealous because they themselves don't have the same ability to do so.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I'd go for William Henry Harrison - in office just 32 days, had the good grace to die, and was British. What's not to like?
    Probably caused the least damage as President.
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    In that sense the man is a freakin' genius.

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