View Poll Results: Was Ronald Reagan the best President of the all times?

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    McDonalds has sold the most hamburgers.


    Sometimes sales has to do with price, access, etc.


    Sometimes lowest common denominator moves sales; it certainly doesn't guarantee quality.
    So you only view one aspect of an issue as definitive when determining "best"?

    So, if a hamburger costs $200 in some chi-chi restaurant elitists frequent, that must be the best, right?

    Maybe the majority of the public likes a McDonalds hamburger because of its simplicity and it best serves their needs/desires at the time of purchase. Maybe the majority of the public doesn't want caviar or truffles adorning their hamburger, just because some elitists believe caviar and truffles on their burger makes them look superior to the plebes.

    I'm not so arrogant as to believe that my likes and/or dislikes are superior to those of others or the majority. Your comments seem to indicate you think yours are. That's why they're arrogant and elitist. It's pretty simple.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    So you only view one aspect of an issue as definitive when determining "best"?

    So, if a hamburger costs $200 in some chi-chi restaurant elitists frequent, that must be the best, right?

    Maybe the majority of the public likes a McDonalds hamburger because of its simplicity and it best serves their needs/desires at the time of purchase. Maybe the majority of the public doesn't want caviar or truffles adorning their hamburger, just because some elitists believe caviar and truffles on their burger makes them look superior to the plebes.

    I'm not so arrogant as to believe that my likes and/or dislikes are superior to those of others or the majority. Your comments seem to indicate you think yours are. That's why they're arrogant and elitist. It's pretty simple.
    An interesting observation from my perch, CJ, is the "opinions" offered by so many who weren't even world aware during Reagan's tenure, let alone alive. To fully appreciate the times, and the impact of Reagan's Administration and policies, a person would have to be in their 50's and older today. Otherwise, what they think they know is only from what they have been told, or taught. And that, we know, is generally not the truth.

    You described the period of Reagans Presidency beautifully in your post #42. Well stated.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Reagan was not the best president by a long shot, but he sure did end up with the most coordinated effort by those who use him to further their agenda by way of his near deification.

    He is already as much myth as he was real.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Not everything Reagan did in his foreign policy was a success.. Lebanon. Iran Contra. He ended up arming many we are fighting today.

    But IMO his negotiations with the USSR were very good, I give him a lot of credit that. Funny thing about that though was many conservatives and Republicans sharply criticized Reagan back then for talking to and negotiating with the USSR. Some accused him of appeasement. Does that sound familiar?
    But I think not the Reaganomics were the problem, the problem was high spending in military.

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    In capitalism supply side is the only side. The cold war was over until a very weak administration allowed lesser powers to restart it. Smart foreign policy understands the proper use of power, both politically and economically. The last seven years have been a text book lesson in what not to do with power.
    LOL So Reagan was correct to withdraw from the M.E. when 241 of our servicemen were killed in the Beirut bombing? What text book lesson was that? Perhaps selling arms to Iran is what we need to do today also. You people have no comprehension of what Reagan did or was it just the people that surrounded Reagan and he read the script? He was just a b-movie Hollywood actor after all.

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Being rich often has little to do with being talented. While being exceptional can make a person rich, the usual method is to be born rich and simply be average, and then stay rich.



    Neither he nor his policies did either of those things. Our economy is far far weaker for enacting supply side economics, and no one "won" the Cold War. We are still suffering for having fought it in the first place.
    I think you are wrong on both counts, though, as an economist I can really only speak for the economy with any certainty. But the strategy he employed was consistent with bringing down the Soviet and so.....

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL So Reagan was correct to withdraw from the M.E. when 241 of our servicemen were killed in the Beirut bombing? What text book lesson was that? Perhaps selling arms to Iran is what we need to do today also. You people have no comprehension of what Reagan did or was it just the people that surrounded Reagan and he read the script? He was just a b-movie Hollywood actor after all.

    And it's very clear you people have no comprehension of what Reagan did. But I understand, most of you are just B-or less-students who have been fed a script.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    4 people were killed in Benghazi. We've had Congressional hearing after hearing for no other reason then partisanship. 241 Marines were killed in Lebanon, all Reagan did was cut and run. So please don't point fingers about partisanship, both sides do it. And it's hit record levels the past 6 years.



    The American people were lied to. We're a gullible bunch. Most were behind Bush in 2003 too, but that's changed now that we know the truth.
    To be clear, I'm expressing my opinion and I'm not drawing an equivalence between Khobar Towers and Benghazi. The truth is I don't know what we could have done differently in Lebanon other than not go there. Ambassador Stevens asked for more security in Bengazi and didn't get it. Although I have been critical of Obama, I can't recall being critical of him about Benghazi.

    The American people are lied to every day by every administration. There is a difference though about lying for the good of the country and covering up dumb stuff. Iran Contra was lying for the good of the country in my estimation, unlike giving guns to Mexican drug cartels and not tracking them.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL So Reagan was correct to withdraw from the M.E. when 241 of our servicemen were killed in the Beirut bombing? What text book lesson was that? Perhaps selling arms to Iran is what we need to do today also. You people have no comprehension of what Reagan did or was it just the people that surrounded Reagan and he read the script? He was just a b-movie Hollywood actor after all.

    Perhaps war in Lebanon would have been more appropriate. What would you have done?
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Actually with Reagan was fascinates me the most is how today's conservatives look at him as almost godlike, he's an idol to them. Even the TP people, hell Ted Cruz has a portrait of Reagan hanging on his wall.

    But if we look at his time in office if he did these things today the Republicans, especially the TP people would want him impeached. He signed an assault weapon ban, he raised taxes on Corps by billion's of $'s, he gave amnesty to illegals. While governor he signed one of the early permissive state level abortion laws in Cali.

    And most of all he compromised. He called the USSR an evil empire, but that didn't stop him from talking to them, and compromising with them. He had a good working relationship with the Dems in Congress.

    This bunch running the GOP nowadays it's their way or the highway. They want nothing to do with compromise. If Reagan was alive today and running for dog catcher he couldn't get the backing of the fanatics running todays GOP.
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