View Poll Results: Was Ronald Reagan the best President of the all times?

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    9 9.89%
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    It's been awhile since I've seen that chart, but if I remember correctly it was proven to be misleading. What it is measuring is the amount of increase in spending, not any perceived thriftiness. Considering that spending was already absurdly high when Obama took office means that anything other than negative numbers puts him right in with all the others. So no, while he didn't increase spending all that much, he kept it there... which is NOT something that should be celebrated.
    If there is inflation and population growth, (ceteris paribus) constant nominal spending levels can not support sustained equivalent services.

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Obama inherited Bush's wars, Bush's tax cuts and Bush's recession. Of course there was going to be negative numbers and deficits.

    ****, 1 of the dumbest things Bush did was cut taxes while 2 wars were going on. You're asking for deficits and debt when you do that. But Cheney once said 'deficits don't matter'. So that was what Bush and his admin was going with.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    chalk this poll up as "not getting result OP expected" ............

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    the poll cannot really be answered...except in the no...because of not being able to really measure reagan against all other presidents.

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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    First President of my lifetime. So this is how he ranks:

    1) Bill Clinton (butt naked) (google "Bill Clinton buttnaked" and go to videos. Great stuff.)
    2) -TIE- Obama and Reagan
    3) Bush Sr.
    4) Bush Jr.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConsvLiberal View Post
    In 1984 Ronald Reagan got the best result in history of the United Staates Of America. The Reaganomics were popular all around the world. Do you think that he was the greatest President of the United States?
    I loved Reagan at the time. I still rank him as one of our five best presidents ever, for one reason and one reason only: he won the Cold War without it ever really turning hot. That's huge, and overshadows everything else he did right or wrong. I also give him credit for restoring our national pride...it felt really good at the time, but now I think that kind of attitude played a big part in Bush Jr's decision to lie us into invading Iraq. But that's just unfounded speculation on my part.

    Reagan screwed our economy but good. He tripled our national debt. His "trickle-down" Reaganomics was called "voodoo economics" by Bush Sr. for very good reason...because as Al Sharpton (whom I don't like) said, "we got the down, but we never got the trickle". After being adjusted for inflation, thanks to Reaganomics, the rich made out like bandits...but wage growth has stayed pretty much flat since then.

    Reagan had to have known about (and approved of) Iran-Contra. If he'd have been a Democratic president involved in the same thing, the Right would not have rested until he was (rightly) impeached. But because he was a Republican president, it was "let's circle the wagons against those Democrats and those reporters!"

    I give him credit for winning the Cold War because he was the captain of the Ship of State, and just like the captain of a ship, the one in charge gets all the blame...and all the credit. If not for his victory in the Cold War, Reagan was a truly crappy president. But because he DID win the Cold War - which literally threatened all of human civilization - he rightly deserves to be called one of our five best presidents ever.

    The best two (in no particular order) were Washington and Lincoln. The other three (in descending order) were FDR, Reagan...and yes, President Obama. If you'll notice, all five of these presidents share one common thread - they ALL faced and overcame challenges that were greater than any faced by the other unnamed presidents. I know you won't agree, but you asked my opinion, and that's it.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Reagan was the best President of my lifetime. Of course that isn't saying much, since I was born when JFK was President, and all Presidents from him onward, including him, were less than mediocre, if not awful...except Reagan.

    I can safely say that he was one of the country's greatest leaders and he had many accomplishments as President. But not sure if he was the best President ever.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I'm going to assume you know how legislation is passed. When the executive and legislative clash one thing happens but it often takes different paths. Clinton was dragged into a balanced budget by a government shutdown. Reagan on the other hand formed a working relationship with Tip O'Neil and they traded ideas on legislation. Democrats under Obama didn't even bother to pass budgets and instead relied on endless debt ceiling raises resulting in record deficits. By the end of his time in office Obama will have spent as much as all former presidents combined. Bitch about that.
    And right on cue, the discussion turns to Obama.

    Tell you what, I'll bitch about Obama's deficit when you acknowledge that the Great Gipper cared nothing about running up same throughout his presidency. Because that's where all this deficit spending began. If you can bring yourself to acknowledging that "Ye' Old Conservative Sage" had faults, then I can certainly (and have) acknowledge that Obama had made mistakes, too.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Where do I write that the government is manipulating the rich. Can you read English?
    Try here at your post #7...

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    This mantra of "the 1%" is pretty silly and meaningless. But I take it you are referring to the rich. They are not "afraid" but they have the means and opportunity to make full use of the tax code. Another example of how greater government attempts at manipulation (through an ever more complicated tax code) has absolutely zero effect.
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    Re: Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    And right on cue, the discussion turns to Obama.

    Tell you what, I'll bitch about Obama's deficit when you acknowledge that the Great Gipper cared nothing about running up same throughout his presidency. Because that's where all this deficit spending began. If you can bring yourself to acknowledging that "Ye' Old Conservative Sage" had faults, then I can certainly (and have) acknowledge that Obama had made mistakes, too.

    Reaganomics Vs. Obamanomics: Facts And Figures - Forbes

    As a result, while the Reagan recovery averaged 7.1% economic growth over the first seven quarters, the Obama recovery has produced less than half that at 2.8%, with the last quarter at a dismal 1.8%. After seven quarters of the Reagan recovery, unemployment had fallen 3.3 percentage points from its peak to 7.5%, with only 18% unemployed long-term for 27 weeks or more. After seven quarters of the Obama recovery, unemployment has fallen only 1.3 percentage points from its peak, with a postwar record 45% long-term unemployed.
    The article is well done, I'd post the whole thing if it was good form.
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