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    Re: Age limits on firearms?

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    I've got some bad news for you. The majority don't reach any appreciable level of maturity until their mid 20s at least. It's sad but true. I moved out of my parent's house at 17 and held a full time job while finishing high school. One of the most disappointing things I saw was 4 college students at a Relay For Life event try to take down a pop up canopy. Not a pretty sight. I was left wondering how they dress themselves. Then I was terrified when I realized that they would be driving home.
    Yeah, I was stretching it when I said 21, but I remember doing some stupid things when I was 25. Wisdom only comes with age and doing things the wrong way. What a shame, young people still won't listen to us older and wiser people.

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    Re: Age limits on firearms?

    Responsible, pro-active firearm safety should start at an early age although I personally think three is a little too young. Six-seven seems more appropriate, but if you think you can handle it at that young an age than more power to ya.

    Edit - I also believe accidents involving children resulting from irresponsible parenting in regards to handling a gun should be met with harsher punishments.

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    Re: Age limits on firearms?

    Quote Originally Posted by akrunner88 View Post
    Responsible, pro-active firearm safety should start at an early age although I personally think three is a little too young. Six-seven seems more appropriate, but if you think you can handle it at that young an age than more power to ya.

    Edit - I also believe accidents involving children resulting from irresponsible parenting in regards to handling a gun should be met with harsher punishments.
    neither agreeing nor disagreeing but for what purpose?

    if its deterrence -do you think someone who doesn't worry about the future consequences of a dead child is going to worry about the future consequences of violating a law?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    neither agreeing nor disagreeing but for what purpose?

    if its deterrence -do you think someone who doesn't worry about the future consequences of a dead child is going to worry about the future consequences of violating a law?
    We impose punishments on crimes and consequent severity of said punishment based on many factors. Usually anything involving children increases said punishment and its severity/longevity. Deterrence is often a small part of the equation. Not that this is super relevant to the thread. I believe in responsible gun ownership, and laws in place to reflect responsible gun ownership, including safety training. Banning guns or passing gun regulations to limit availability to guns is never the answer. If I want to train my child how to shoot a hand gun to protect him/herself from a home intruder if I'm not around, that better damn well be my right.

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    Re: Age limits on firearms?

    Quote Originally Posted by akrunner88 View Post
    We impose punishments on crimes and consequent severity of said punishment based on many factors. Usually anything involving children increases said punishment and its severity/longevity. Deterrence is often a small part of the equation. Not that this is super relevant to the thread. I believe in responsible gun ownership, and laws in place to reflect responsible gun ownership, including safety training. Banning guns or passing gun regulations to limit availability to guns is never the answer. If I want to train my child how to shoot a hand gun to protect him/herself from a home intruder if I'm not around, that better damn well be my right.
    THe problem is is that losing a child due to the negligence of leaving a gun unattended is usually due to NOT thinking of the consequences

    if losing a child isn't enough to make you less likely to leave a gun laying around, increased punishment won't either. and losing a child is about the worst thing you can do to a parent
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    Re: Age limits on firearms?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    THe problem is is that losing a child due to the negligence of leaving a gun unattended is usually due to NOT thinking of the consequences

    if losing a child isn't enough to make you less likely to leave a gun laying around, increased punishment won't either. and losing a child is about the worst thing you can do to a parent
    That doesn't mean we shouldn't increase the punishment though.

    And this is also why I support laws mandating certain classes on gun safety and care of firearms. But support for such classes is seen as "anti-gun" around here despite the fact that I fully support buying all sorts of firearms for recreational, personal safety, etc. Including "scary automatic weapons."

    Just as we mandate classes for driving before obtaining a license to operate a couple thousand pound deadly weapon, same rules should apply to guns. Not that it will prevent all accidents, but may prevent many.

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    Re: Age limits on firearms?

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    I agree. I've always thought it was a bit dishonest of the lefty hypocrites when they want to teach sex ed in schools because kids are going to have sex anyway and then laugh at teaching abstinence, then think that 300,000,000 guns are going to somehow disappear. It makes more sense to teach about guns in school since chances are kids are going to encounter guns at some point.
    As a leftist, I agree with you. Well, not about abstinence, which I think is a joke. But definitely about guns, which I view as a fundamental right to own.

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    Re: Age limits on firearms?

    Quote Originally Posted by akrunner88 View Post
    That doesn't mean we shouldn't increase the punishment though.

    And this is also why I support laws mandating certain classes on gun safety and care of firearms. But support for such classes is seen as "anti-gun" around here despite the fact that I fully support buying all sorts of firearms for recreational, personal safety, etc. Including "scary automatic weapons."

    Just as we mandate classes for driving before obtaining a license to operate a couple thousand pound deadly weapon, same rules should apply to guns. Not that it will prevent all accidents, but may prevent many.
    1) cars are not a constitutional right

    2) operating cars on private property or owning them do not require classes

    3) I already had to take a test to carry concealed on public property. CCW holders-even in states that don't require training-cause less harm than drivers
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    Re: Age limits on firearms?

    Giving kids guns always works out well

    A Montana boy startled at being awakened in the middle of the night fired a shot through his bedroom window and killed the 15-year-old friend who had been knocking and throwing pebbles at his window, police said Monday.

    Billings police officers found the teen with a gunshot wound to his head early Sunday, and he died at a hospital a short time later. Police identified the victim as Mackeon Schulte, the Billings Gazette reported.

    Schulte and another boy were spending the night together and showed up at their friend's house about 2:30 a.m. Sunday, according to a statement by Billings Police Chief Rich St. John released Monday.
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    Re: Age limits on firearms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Good or bad?

    I bought my daughter a rifle for her third birthday and parents at the party went ape ****... why?
    Why? Because they are either unfamiliar, thus uncomfortable, around firearms or they are part of the gun hater crowd.

    I think it's great you got her a rifle. Especially one she can learn fundamentals on. Although, I think a BB or Pellet would be even better. Also, I would recommend you get her a BB/Pellet pistol to practice and learn fundamentals of handguns on.
    Be sure to work hard and get lots of overtime. People on welfare want more steaks and free upgrades to smart phones with unlimited data packages.

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