Thrilla
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it's interesting how many people believe rights didn't exist before 1776.Because in this country, you have every possible right unless there's a constitutionally sound reason to restrict it. That's what the ninth amendment is for.
on what basis do you believe you have every right possible unless there's a constitutionally sound reason to restrict it?... what makes you believe this to be true?
oy vey... I didn't know i actually had to explain what a right is to you.. i would have assumed you already had an understanding.:roll:You're not talking about principles. You're talking about feeling entitled. I think you ought to refine your definitions.
a right is a just claim to something... a just claim is the same as being entitled.
in this discussion, we''re talking about having just claims to something by virtue of our nature...we're entitled to something by virtue of nature.
well, this is generally where the meat and potatoes of the discussion comes in ... are these rights created by man.. or are they discovered and developed by man?Of course rights exist. We're talking about whether or not they're a human construct or if they're intrinsic to nature. You are asserting the latter while I am demonstrating good reason why it's the former.
if they are created, who are the creators? and on what basis did these creations take hold?... personally, I can't fathom an accidental creation of such a thing that just so happens to coincidence perfectly with natural human reason and behavior... but then again, i'm not a big believer in magic or incredible coincidence that just so happens to be as valid today as it was 2500 years ago... or 2000 years ago.. or 200 years ago.
sure thing.. i'll try not to use simple english words from now on :roll:You should try to be more clear when you speak then, so people can understand you.
again.. creation or discovery?..... feel free to provide an argument as to why they are a creation as opposed to a discovery.Yes, they are about human interaction. They are therefore a creation of humans